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If people were really smart, particularly in the USA, What do you think they'd stop doing by now? (kbin.melroy.org)

submitted 11 hours ago by NeoToasty@kbin.melroy.org to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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Giving money to Amazon, Wal-Mart, Microsoft, Google .etc

It's like, you can't have an argument for price gouging, when you're enabling them by spending. If people were smart, they'd stop giving them money 10 - 15 years ago and they'd be right now, trying to reconstruct so they can be more economically friendly than how they are now.

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[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Few people want to cook the climate, they just can’t quite fathom something that abstract and slow-moving, so they do it anyway.

I don't think the problem is that people are unaware. Even people who believe they are against cooking the environment have other rationalisations, like "the economy isn't able to shut down all the coal plants yet, it'll collapse". Propaganda is a hell of a drug.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

No, it's not that people are unaware, or even don't believe it, it's that they can't reason about it strategically

It's spending now to save later. If that's about military spending or emergency services everyone gets paying taxes for it, but words are as far as most will go to stop nonspecific far future weather. Even when people talk about the situation with climate change, you hear them frame it in moral terms instead of practical terms.

Case in point: Canada has a carbon tax, and a majority want to get rid of it. Denialism is not a prominent part of the campaign, just the fact that it costs something. And not even much, and it's all given back in refunds - doesn't matter, the extra gas cost people will bear is zero.