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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky warned that Ukraine would lose the war if the U.S., its primary military supporter, cuts funding.

Speaking to Fox News, he stressed the importance of unity between the U.S. and Ukraine as Russia accelerates its territorial gains.

Zelensky acknowledged Ukraine’s challenges on the battlefield, despite new U.S. weapon supplies, including long-range missiles and anti-personnel land mines.

He criticized German Chancellor Olaf Scholz for engaging with Putin, calling it a risky move.

Trump has pledged to end the war quickly but offered no specifics.

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 59 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Give em full air support. If it causes world war 3, it causes world war 3. Fuck it. Avoiding that isn't worth letting Russia just consume its neighbors on a whim - that shit certainly won't stop with Ukraine.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

if it causes ww3, it will be a lot less bloody war than what will be if russia is allowed to recover and take over next country

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago

There isnt enough North Koreans for that.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Maybe if WW3 breaks out, Biden won't hand over power to the literal fascists that are already making decisions to cause our demise.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

wow yeah I hope we have global nuclear apocalypse so we can avoid the consequences of elections! totally worth.

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

These people are unhinged. This is just Reddit 2.0.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm glad the traditional American desire to fuck up the world because you feel upset is alive and well. that was really fun in the 2000s.

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Wtf? That's such a casual suggestion to dismantle democracy. Yeah let's do that so we never get a progressive in office /s

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If we're going to have an autocracy, it may as well be the one that is still somewhat benevolent to the common man.

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

If we're going to have an autocracy

Yeah I'd rather not. I agree if that that were the only two options it would be preferable but I totally disagree that those are the only two options and I think it's extremely dangerous rhetoric to say anyone should be an autocrat. Trump is about to be president and is the biggest threat to American democracy we've seen in anyone's living memory. But he's also about to become deeply unpopular again like every president does after election and particular bad as people start to remember what he's like. That is a far cry from a guarantee that it's over. Irreparable damage will be done but it's just silly to race to the bottom

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

It wouldn't be the first time a country did that. It's never ended particularly well though.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

That doesn't sound very good either. I still want a chance to vote in another election. Trump might be able to dismantle it before then but if Biden held on to power it would be immediately dismantled.

[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Russia is also already instigating it with having North Korean troops in the combat zone. It'll just be a tit-for-tat response.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Up to 100k North Koreans. I don't care how inept they are, 100k dudes with guns will utterly wreck Ukraine.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Incompetent soldiers still consume a great deal of resources, and may become victims of even cheaper drones.

But "cheaper" still requires some money.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I heard rumors of South Korea sending troops to counter. I don't want world war but that seems fair to me.

[–] foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

it would be more fair that every online bellicist (no matter what camp) enlisted voluntarily and got the chance to validate their theories in practice.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Bold stance. Better to bring about world war 3 than let Russia consume its neighbors? I’ll have to sit with that one for a bit.

I grew up with the USSR so maybe I’m not quite ready to throw all earthly civilization into the fire to prevent 20% of that empire from being restored.

[–] die444die@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What in earth makes you think they will stop there?

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The way they’re struggling in Ukraine. 3 years for what they thought would be 3 days, and they haven’t accomplished their goal.

Plus, several of the former USSR states are formal NATO members: the Baltics. With Russia struggling to hold the worst 1/3 of Ukraine, what on Earth makes you think they could sustain a war with NATO, proper?

what in sky makes you believe they'd be able to continue elsewhere?