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How good is Lemmy dealing with censorship and why does the sign-up process on lemmy.ml involve having to copy a sentence from "The Principles of Communism"? (lemm.ee)
submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by Social_Discussion@lemm.ee to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
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Hey everyone, I'm new to Lemmy and just starting to figure this site out. I mainly moved here because of the censorship on Reddit where they didn't publish posts that included the slightest word not allowed by their filter and they removed/blocked lots of content. I wonder if it will be somewhat better here (on the official site it says "Censorship resistant - By hosting your own server, you can be in full control of your content.").

The weird thing I saw with Lemmy was when I wanted to sign-up on the "lemmy.ml" server instance that according to the official Lemmy Servers listing page is a "A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts, run by Lemmy’s developers".

So I thought I try that one when it's from Lemmy's own developers. When I wanted to sign-up it required an application that you needed to fill out with one of the requirements being having to copy a sentence from the link provided which links to some article called "The Principles of Communism" which I thought was very odd for a site to do. I've never seen a site like this promoting some ideology that directly where it's part of the sign-up process to almost pledge to some political or religious ideology.

This seemed very sketchy to me. Does anyone know something about this?

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[–] Social_Discussion@lemm.ee 9 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Very interesting, thanks for the reply. I signed-up on lemm.ee since that's the 2nd biggest instance on their list. Is this a good server as well? (The description here says: "General-purpose Lemmy instance. New users and communities welcome!")

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 days ago

Any instance whose rules you agree with is good. Picking a big one that's not the biggest is a good call so good job.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Lemm.ee is less politically oriented than any of the 3 that were recommended, by the other user, but it's lesd of an instance and more of a tool for interacting with other instances.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I understand lemmy.world, but I'm curious what makes you say that about the other two? Stricter defederation or something?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

dbzer0 is an Anarchist-leaning instance, though it allows others. Sh.itjust.works has ncd and meanwhileongrad, which attracts pro-NATO and anti-Communist individuals, though the lean isn't as strong as Lemmy.world and dbzer0 and as such there's more variety there.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thank you. I forgot about meanwhileongrad. That makes sense.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago

No problem!

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, that’s a good one. Honestly, at the end of the day, it matters more what communities you follow than what instance you are on.

[–] murmelade@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

But what communities are available to you depends on which instance you picked. Right?

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago

Yeah, because they are all part of their respective instances and those instances (de)federate with each other. ml and ee are both good for that purpose. My own instance is bad for that purpose, but after spending some time on a more mainstream instance, I decided this was better for my mental health.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Technically yes, but in practice for any of the big instances, not really.

I still see all the communities I want from SJW: local, dot world, dot ml, lemm.ee, etc

Exception is Beehaw because they defederated us but they also deferedated Lemmy.world too so they've already cut themselves from most users. I have an acct there anyway but don't feel the need to check it much anymore.

Edit: another notable example is Lemmy.world won't allow federating with any communities focusing on piracy.

Edit2: why downvote this? Am I incorrect?

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Wrong. You can subscribe to any community from any instance that is federated with yours, and it will show up in your feed. Once one person has subscribed to an outside community, it will start to appear under All in your home instance as well. If you pick a home instance that is federated with most of the others, then you essentially can see everything you would feasibly want to see.

I am subscribed to communities all over the Fediverse.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Lemme.ee is fine. It wouldn't hurt to have multiple accounts in different instances in case one goes down for maintenance so you can keep browsing. I recommend dbzero since they're techy and don't lean on politics as much as other instances.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

It wouldn’t hurt to have multiple accounts in different instances in case one goes down for maintenance so you can keep browsing.

Grass? Never touch the stuff. Worms fuck in it.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I've been happy on lemme.ee for the fact that they didn't get caught up in the defederation drama about a year ago, and that they're mainly a neutral landing instance to go about interacting with other communities on other instances. Other instances will defederate with instances they disagree with, a form of censorship in itself, whereas the admins of lemm.ee leave it to you to block what you don't want to see yourself.

[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

Exactly why I like it here too. They really do let the user choose their own censorship limit.