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[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Best EV before the fascist made it evident that's what he is. Still best supercharging network available.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They have never not been poorly made.

Somewhat tangential fact we should not forget: Musk didn't found Tesla. He bought his way in but acts like he founded it.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

They were the only reasonable EV option for several years. They still have the best available charging network if any EV.

I'm not selling a car that is paid off bc the owner of the company stopped hiding that he's obvious trash.

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

How about because it's safety features lack basic things that can save lives?

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I bet if your house slides in the water anyone inside may well die. You gonna move? If not, why? If it's because it doesn't seem probable, then revisit your comment to me. Half of one percent of probability is not "basic things that save lives", that would be seat belts, air bags, windshield wipers, a horn, etc. etc.

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You forget about conformity, if something doesn't work how one would expect it to especially in an emergency then it's poorly designed.

If you pull a door handle the expected result is that it releases the door to be opened... If for every door you had to push,pull, lift, turn, check for a secret lever you would think door's are shit...

And that's exactly what's happening here...

It only follows the standard when it's not damaged...

If my house slides into water we got a lot more issues happening and my doors will still work as expected...

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I mean fine, yes, we want consistent behavior for as many car systems as possible. I agree.

My perspective is if you do something different, like use electronic systems, and 5 times out of 1000 in emergency situations it doesn't work as intended, is that REALLY cause for redesign if there's a benefit to doing something different?

I am sure there are other vehicles that, after a crash or a drop in the water, have doors that won't open as expected or windows that don't roll or break, or maybe thet sink too fast or who knows what other thing. I don't think that fractional percentage points of situations warrant scrapping or redesigning basically anything that is not universally adopted.

I'm super griped that, as an early adopter of EVs, everybody wants to lay a turd on the cars I have had nothing but good experiences with because the CEO is a fuckwad and tech bros try to cheat the VERY prominent warning messages.

They are by no means the nicest made cars I have ever owned, but as far as the whole EV package goes, I don't think you can go wrong buying one even still if you can afford it. I super hope someone gets a better option on the table soon, but the meme Tesla hate is probably driving people away from a generally solid car choice.

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago

Yes because if it can save a life then it's worth it... No one deserves to die because they got into a car. Do you know how you fix it? Make the default unlocked so if it loses power it's going to open... There are ways to fix things so they will work as intended.

And no shit if you get hit in the side I wouldn't expect anyone to think a broken bend door is going to function. But if the only thing wrong with it is that it no longer has power and therefore doesn't open?

I'm glad you have nothing but great experiences with your car and that's fine... And Tesla opened the patents so other car makers could do EVs... That's great.

But fuck them for helping making huge screens the standard. And lying constantly about self driving...only using cameras for automated driving... And the shitty quality control for luxury cars.. they have recalls after recalls...

So yeah you should be upset, because Tesla for a short while was great... I thought about it way back when but the screen always held me back.

Have you looked at other EVs? More and more are coming out from the big car brands and newer ones.