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Biden allows Ukraine to use US arms to strike inside Russia (www.reuters.com)
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WASHINGTON, Nov 17 (Reuters) - President Joe Biden's administration will allow Ukraine to use U.S.-provided weapons to strike deep into Russian territory, three sources familiar with the matter said, in a significant change to Washington's policy in the Ukraine-Russia conflict.

Ukraine plans to conduct its first long-range attacks in the coming days, the sources said, without revealing details due to operational security concerns.

The move by the United States two months before President-elect Donald Trump takes office on Jan. 20 follows months of requests by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to allow Ukraine's military to use U.S. weapons to hit Russian military targets far from its border.

The change follows Russia's deployment of North Korean ground troops to supplement its own forces, a development that has caused alarm in Washington and Kyiv.

The first deep strikes are likely to be carried out using ATACMS rockets, which have a range of up to 190 miles (306 km), according to the sources.

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[–] shapesandstuff@feddit.org -1 points 4 days ago (3 children)

not my fault you just sent me 3 or 4 responses across the thread

[–] griefstricken@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Well I'm not trying to run ahead and throw out a bunch of shit before you elaborate on what you're saying. I mean you told me to move on to arguing about the veracity of this footage but I think these discussions have no purpose unless we establish what premises we are working with and what the history of the conflict is.

A lot of civilians already died in the civil war in Ukraine 2014-2022 before Russia got involved. There is a lot more to this. I just doubt considering how you reply we will get to that but, these are still emails, and we can stick to one thread if you want lol.

[–] shapesandstuff@feddit.org -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I have a feeling our timelines diverged a good bit earlier than that, not sure if we'll be able to hold amy meaningful conversation.

Still lacking any substance or source btw, I'll stop engaging now.

[–] griefstricken@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I mean you were just for some reason denying the wording but not the intended meaning of your messages.

I know how you're going to try to deny what I am about to show you, you're going to dismiss it as Russian propaganda. You don't want to hear shit about how we get sources now, either from press releases, "whistleblowers" (like Grayzone does), or leaked by soldiers themselves like the following video. Please take note of the source of the video. This is from a Ukrainian commanding officer's phone. People you dislike reporting this does not magically make it "propaganda". Zhorin posted this. https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/russia-appeals-to-intl-organizations-over-kupyansk-execution

Here are some of the hundreds of examples of Ukrainians posting "saboteurs" being publicly whipped like we live under fucking feudalism https://web.archive.org/web/20220320160425/https://twitter.com/Youblacksoul/status/1505309631542931459

All ignored by western media

https://ukraine.un.org/en/168060-conflict-related-civilian-casualties-ukraine

If you look at all of the UN reports on the Ukraine Donbas war they make it clear the civilian casualties are in Donbas. I guess you think the Russians are false flag cluster bombing Donbas concerts or something.

It's almost like blindly trusting US propaganda post Iraq war is a fool's errand. I mean it was before that too but shit man