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It's only for four months. Putin doesn't mind how many Russians will die until Trump gets in and tells Ukraine to surrender his buddy.
If Putin doesn't care how many Ukrainians die, why is he even averse to hitting their rail lines and electrical infrastructure? They clearly save these attacks for retaliation when negotiations fall through yet again and the bellicose US statements get out of hand yet again.
The whole mystification of Iran and Russia's clear strategy of "fuck off so we can stabilize and develop" that inevitably results in risks to our own stability is too funny. Western orientalism is strong in 2024 as it was in 2001.
Russia doesn't benefit from destabilized hostile states on its border. What about that is so hard for liberals to understand? Putin and the oligarchs literally wanted to loot their country and sell shit to the west and you idiots have driven them to China. I should thank you, but you didn't have any say in the matter.
Just wanna point out that in this initial reply to the comment tree, you did the exact same thing I just called you out on:
Misrepresenting (or to not assume malice, misREADING) another comment to then spin your entire narrative around that error.
They said:
You base your retort on:
"this already shows you are terrible at reading. How am I supposed to expect you to treat anything else I show you seriously when you cannot even read your own material?"
You cannot be serious, this is a distinction without a difference. I can't believe you've managed to find a way to fence sit between your own position and mine. Yes, to add to your inability to read, you seemingly intend to exhaust my energy by arguing about meaningless nonsense. You have the attitude of someone who does not value their time.
Thats a lot of words that all don't say "my bad i misread that". Try that for once.
It's called paraphrasing. It means literally the same thing. 🤣 You are fucking desperate.
Define paraphrasing :D
Dude you don't even know how to gish gallop properly. You're just being annoying.
not my fault you just sent me 3 or 4 responses across the thread
Well I'm not trying to run ahead and throw out a bunch of shit before you elaborate on what you're saying. I mean you told me to move on to arguing about the veracity of this footage but I think these discussions have no purpose unless we establish what premises we are working with and what the history of the conflict is.
A lot of civilians already died in the civil war in Ukraine 2014-2022 before Russia got involved. There is a lot more to this. I just doubt considering how you reply we will get to that but, these are still emails, and we can stick to one thread if you want lol.
I have a feeling our timelines diverged a good bit earlier than that, not sure if we'll be able to hold amy meaningful conversation.
Still lacking any substance or source btw, I'll stop engaging now.
I mean you were just for some reason denying the wording but not the intended meaning of your messages.
I know how you're going to try to deny what I am about to show you, you're going to dismiss it as Russian propaganda. You don't want to hear shit about how we get sources now, either from press releases, "whistleblowers" (like Grayzone does), or leaked by soldiers themselves like the following video. Please take note of the source of the video. This is from a Ukrainian commanding officer's phone. People you dislike reporting this does not magically make it "propaganda". Zhorin posted this. https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/russia-appeals-to-intl-organizations-over-kupyansk-execution
Here are some of the hundreds of examples of Ukrainians posting "saboteurs" being publicly whipped like we live under fucking feudalism https://web.archive.org/web/20220320160425/https://twitter.com/Youblacksoul/status/1505309631542931459
All ignored by western media
https://ukraine.un.org/en/168060-conflict-related-civilian-casualties-ukraine
If you look at all of the UN reports on the Ukraine Donbas war they make it clear the civilian casualties are in Donbas. I guess you think the Russians are false flag cluster bombing Donbas concerts or something.
It's almost like blindly trusting US propaganda post Iraq war is a fool's errand. I mean it was before that too but shit man