IDK what your point is. NATO being revitalized is not a "good thing" that makes us live nicer. NATO and rearmament is a fever, Russian imperialism is the sickness.

NATO is not an economic alliance, it's a military one. The sole goal of NATO is keeping Russian soldiers outside NATO members' territories. And as someone whose home country has suffered immensely under Russian occupation, seeing Russia draw troops down from the Finnish border right after they joined the alliance makes me happy that we are NATO members.

Europe wouldn't be doing better outside NATO, it has no bearing on economics. Trade disruption with Russia certainly has to do with it, but ironically that's because during the 00s and the 10s Europe extended a friendly hand to Russia, and got into deep trading entanglements with it, which Russia tried to exploit to force geopolitical concessions.

[–] griefstricken@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You are contradicting yourself LOL, you say NATO has no bearing on the European economic situation while admitting in the next breath it has huge implications for energy prices due to trade with Russia. Europeans have been debating their quality of life drop, and your countrymen have been calling me blind drunk screaming about how they have no money and they can't decide if they hate the Russians or you anti-Russian zealots more. You are simply unaffected by the actual damage because you are economically insulated and 100% of your political leanings are based on oversocialization. They have no connection to material conditions in Europe. Basically cope and go buy one of your state manufactured vodka seltzers you underwear drunk idiot.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What the actual heck are you talking about?

NATO has no bearing on the European economic situation while admitting in the next breath it has huge implications for energy prices due to trade with Russia.

Energy prices went up since Russia is conducting a military invasion on the country transiting said energy, and as a result of EU/US sanctions that are the result of war crimes, crimes of aggression and genocide. The only thing NATO does currently is ensure that can't spill over to more countries being attacked. NATO didn't do jack shit yet. Individual countries, and the EU, did.

and your countrymen have been calling me blind drunk screaming about how they have no money

Our countrymen should look for their money at Hatvanpuszta or Mészáros & Mészáros. Russian puppet Orbán stole all the money and the future of the country, Russian puppet Orbán made it impossible to have children, get sick, or die, with dignity, he is responsible for producing the highest real estate inflation, the highest food inflation in the EU, and it's all because he'd rather take Russian cock to his throat than have less corruption kickbacks.

A ruszkik meg igazán hazamehetnének végre és foglalkozhatnának a saját országukkal ahelyett hogy mongol módjára fosztogatnak és erőszakolnak nyugatra.

[–] griefstricken@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

LOL I like how you skipped over the cause and effect of the energy prices: the sanctions and Nord Stream bombing. You just started venting your Orbán Derangement Syndome.

I won't try to press you to use logic regarding how US energy companies benefit. You're clearly too emotional to process it. European racists are the most pathetic.

Blackrock will take the world you intended for your children from you. Glad you learned to treat it as a positive thing.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

the sanctions and Nord Stream bombing.

I wonder what might have caused that. Not a genocidal fascist Russia, right?

I won’t try to press you to use logic regarding how US energy companies benefit.

It's a shit situation, but still better than genocide.

You just started venting your Orbán Derangement Syndome.

Nice to see you using the same lingo as the American fascists, you know the ones that support an additional genocide in the Middle East as well as the one Russia is perpetrating.

Blackrock will take the world you intended for your children from you.

Thanks, but Orbán already took it and sold most of it to Russians. Not much left to steal anymore.

[–] griefstricken@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's really not true brother. 😅 You have so much more to lose. Don't say you weren't warned. You begged for the Western financial class to enact more punitive measures that you just acknowledged are contributing to an energy and cost of living crisis in Europe. You can lose so much more than cheap heating in the winter. So much more.

Slava Ukraini. Oh no, I just jokingly repeated the words of fascists. 🤣

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Orphans are being quite literally raped with government support, healthcare is nonexistent with hospitals not picking up the phone and entire wards closing, the infrastructure is failing with trains derailing daily, wages are a joke and are being artificially repressed, housing prices are skyrocketing, all with government support.

That's Orbán's reality, that is the proximate threat, that is what the Russian puppet is doing to the country. Wall Street idiots and incompetent neoliberal politicians are of course annoying and we should work against that as well, but give me a fucking break.

And just please stop doing the American exceptionalist idiotism yourself, the world is more than genocidal fascistic Russians and genocidal fascistic Americans. You don't need to lick the boot of Putin to show you don't support Biden.

[–] griefstricken@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You literally only use White House approved sources. I don't approve of anything you are talking about because it is made up to justify the West supporting neonazis. This is a narrative you have no actual evidence for. All of your ideas come from the state department and from Kiev. They're liars. They even told you they were winning the war moron.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Okay, are you seriously a bot? What White House approved sources?

Orphans being raped were acknowledged by the Orbán government, the rapist and his accomplices were convicted in court, then the accomplice was pardoned because he was a personal friend of the Orbán family. That this happened is not even disputed by Orbán himself either, he's just trying to pretend that he has no sway over his own Minister of Justice or the President he nominated. Some in his inner circle are still on the side of the guy who enabled the mass rape of orphaned children.

I am not informing myself about hospitals from "White House approved media", I've been there and lost multiple family members there to entirely preventable causes. I wouldn't wish the experience of visiting a hospice that looks like a literal horror show to see a loved one for one last time as they die from treatable diseases. Or being told that a loved one has died since the ambulance didn't arrive at all. For days.

Please go outside and wake up to the reality that the biggest problem affecting Hungary at least for the past 20 years has been the idiotic, incompetent and utterly corrupt in all senses of the word Orbán government that is being supported by Putin for the sole reason of creating chaos in the EU.

BTW today's news is that this is how a bathroom of a home for children in state care looks like in Hungary, today, after countless amounts of EU money given to and stolen by the government:

[–] griefstricken@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Dawg why the fuck are you lecturing me about Orbán like that has anything to do with the Ukraine War we were originally talking about? Do you think I support Orbán? Are you stoned? I thought by orphans you meant the White House claiming Putin is stealing Ukrainian kids (literally evacuating children from a war zone) to indoctrinate them. Was really not clear, maybe my bad?

I am aware Hungary is fucked up, and I would be totally happy to listen to whatever details you have on the elite child rapists there. Seriously. But you're turning this into some QAnon shit that won't even deal with the problem.

The thing is USA, Japan, Belgium, the UK, and Ukraine (like the entire NATO side) are all child rape capitals of the world as well. Look up Marc Dutroux! If you want to get rid of corrupt politicians in your country, conspiracy theories about how defeating Russia (you can't) will make them crumble to dust and solve all your problems are not helping. Don't you see why Orbán and the far right get more support when their only opposition is people like you who are pro-war? Fix your fucking problems at home and stop blaming Russia for everything.

People like Orbán and Trump don't even care about Russia they only use their politican instincts to realize the war is unpopular and they can grandstand about it. Neither one of them will actually help Russia.