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[–] griefstricken@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There is more than one book about Gladio but at this point I am just going to assume you are a real boot boy who loves the western military and believes everything they say and dismisses all criticism as conspiracies. Don't beat around the bush you slimy motherfucker. You believe the CIA claim that the document is "communist forgery". This is the organization that took ib Hitler's men after the war. Why didn't you state your reasons for dismissing the document as a hoax? Worried you might look "Muricacentric" man?

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/09/02/diplomacy-watch-why-did-the-west-stop-a-peace-deal-in-ukraine/ The "Zelensky is a badass" narrative in 2024 is hilarious. So you expect me to believe negotiations did not fall through because of the West intervening when Foreign Affairs admitted they had a peace deal worked out prior to the UK doing so. Fat chance. You really perceive this as a Manichean struggle and not a geopolitical conflict motivated by finance. Dogbrained bullshit.

Yes the military aid is specifically to prolong the war are you serious? You actually think the western countries are just sending the aid to be nice. Ukraine now has one of the worst debt situations in the entire world, and who do you think that is owed to? The same firms that ensure your children will never own a house, buddy.

[–] Laser@feddit.org -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Russia and Ukraine may have agreed on a tentative deal to end the war in April, according to a recent piece in Foreign Affairs.

“Russian and Ukrainian negotiators appeared to have tentatively agreed on the outlines of a negotiated interim settlement,” wrote Fiona Hill and Angela Stent. “Russia would withdraw to its position on February 23, when it controlled part of the Donbas region and all of Crimea, and in exchange, Ukraine would promise not to seek NATO membership and instead receive security guarantees from a number of countries.”

Calls it peace plan, then I'm the next paragraph refers to it as "negotiated interim settlement" where Russia gets to hold all of Crimea and the Donbas... and the word peace doesn't even appear in the linked article. Nor any reference to an end of the conflict, and even the word "deal" only about the grain export.

The "Zelensky is a badass" narrative in 2024 is hilarious.

And yet, you're the only one calling it that. I was just stating that was offered and that Ukraine's government declined, asking if you're saying that this wasn't their own decision - which you dodged answering.

[–] griefstricken@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago

A peace plan without ceding Donbas? That's just a NATO warplan. Oh well I guess no more account for you. I didn't even report you but good riddance.