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TLDR: i complain about samsung's flagship and newer android.

I use samsung flagship phone and it's crazy, how unable I am to use full potential of my phone, just because I don't want to log in to google neither to samsung. I try to use F-droid and Aurora Store whenever possible, but its so bad experience...for maps I use Organic Maps, but google forces it to be installed specifically from Google Play Store to work with Android Auto, so I have to log in every time there is an update. Most of games won't work, because they require being signed-in to google, and thats actually kinda weird..before my phone now I had an old Galaxy S5 Android 6.0 and games there didn't complain that much as here on Android 14 (so the newer android the less privacy you get, while them all companies "focus on privacy", bullshit liars), samsung requires signing-in to usd like 1/10 of the flagship features..It's so sad, as I love samsung's quality, phone is really outstanding, overall all samsung products are very good quality, but pushing these fucking accounts is convincing me not to buy samsung's flagship anymore. We need to finally unite and make some alternative to those close-sourced bloatware, as phone industry is nowhere near to being as free as desktop industry. I feel more free using Windoze than those fucking " smart"phones. Really if you have to buy new smartphone and are into privacy, think twice before you buy samsung..phone itself is great, but software side is a nightmare.

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[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

If you liked LineageOS without gapps, than I highly recommend DivestOS. It is a soft-fork of LineageOS with significant security hardening and removal of proprietary binary blobs.

[–] potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

lets start the divestos wave, its somehow rarely heard of but has the support of lineageos with the hardening of (almost) grapheneos, and the principles of GNU.

[–] yonder@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago

It also has bootloader locking for some devices, which is a plus.

[–] Tundra@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ive been meaning to flash this onto my fairphone but the websites instructions are a bit confusing (I've installed calyx, eos and graphene on other phones)

[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I would avoid /e/os (and iode) because they are frequently behind on Android security patches. More information here: https://divestos.org/pages/patch_history

[–] kixik@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

That's great if not having to use any proprietary apps depending on google services, including push notifications, since part of divestos unsupported stuff includes:

Google Apps or microG or Sandboxed Play Services are NOT supported.

Which is fine, if you don't need to use such apps. An alternative to /e/os, which now a days is actually murenaOS, is lineageOS for micro G, which does sort of monthly releases based on whatever is available as nightly releases on lineageOS. It does provide you with microG and also with F-Droid with privileged extensions installed and already set for you. This might be more suitable than divestos if in need for some such apps.

[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

MicroG actually works on DivestOS. It is "unsupported", as-in the Dev doesnt want to put any significant time into development for Gapps support.

[–] kixik@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

True, but not entirely, signature spoofing needs OS support, and LOS and divestOS don't, whereas murenaOS (/e/OS) and lineageOS for microG do. Other than that microG's own f-droid repo makes it easy to keep microG's component up to date.

That's why I mentioned it would be nice to upstream divestOS bootloader lock/unlock at will solution, so that not just LOS, but derivative ROMs can inherit that solution. As some people don't like the tight integration from murena (/e/) with all of its rebranding, LOS for microG is a very appealing option, if wanting full microG's support. Actually LOS for microG was there quite before /e/ was created.

[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 1 points 3 days ago

As I said, DivestOS supports microg. It signature spoofs the latest microg release, enabled with a toggle in the settings.