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[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Understanding why the Harris campaign's strategy of moving to the right to try to court Republican voters, instead of moving to the left with popular progressive policies, was a demonstrable failure is not an endorsement of Trump.

A trump term is significantly worse. It's straight up fascism. Which is why it's so frustrating how terrible Harris' Campaign was that she depressed voter turnout by like 14 million people. And for what? Instead of galvanizing support from everyone with a progressive platform, her neoliberal platform only accomplished normalizing right-wing disinformation like on immigration.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So we agree that the choices at the polls were bad and worse for Palestinians. I’m simply saying by not choosing bad, they ended up with worse.

I completely understand feeling sick over the decision, but did they really trust the rest of the US to make the right decision for them?

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I agree that the rational and correct choice was still Harris. I voted for Harris and told others to vote too.

If you're talking about the turnout of the general public, my point is that running on being the 'lesser evil' and moving to the right in an attempt to get republican votes is not a successful method to motivate tens of millions of Americans to get out and vote, even if the greater evil is Fascism. Americans are overworked and uneducated. It's the campaigns responsibility to motivate them to vote by offering them policies that will improve their daily livelihood. It's ultimately on the campaign to earn those votes. The data is clear that progressive policies are popular with everyone, that includes Republicans and independents on top of Democrats. The decision to take those voters for Granted without offering them enough on the policy front, and instead move to the right, was a calculated decision by the campaign that failed.

Polls on campaign messaging

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Polls on policy

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Majority of Americans support progressive policies such as higher minimum wage, free college

Democrats should run on the popular progressive ideas, but not the unpopular ones

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Progressive Policies Are Popular Policies

Tim Walz's Progressive Policies Popular With Republicans in Swing States

If you're talking specifically about the turnout of Arab/Muslim voters in swing states, I discussed that here. Harris' decision to take those votes for granted by refusing to break from Biden was again a calculated decision that did not pay off. All the data showed that if she did break from Biden and call for an Arms Embargo, which is very popular, she would have gotten significant gains.