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Democrats will learn nothing from this.
Id go so far as to say they're paid good money to explicitly not learn from this.
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” ― Upton Sinclair, I, Candidate for Governor: And How I Got Licked
They never do.
"We didn't go far enough right to win over MAGAs hearts and minds."
Well I guess the good news is that it no longer matters if they learn anything? These election results make it clear that going forward they'll have about as much effect on lawmaking as a dead hamster. It's even possible that, except for serving as a convenient cardboard bogeyman, they'll otherwise cease to exist at all.
"Are we out of touch? No, it's the voters who are wrong."
You can blame Democrats all you want. This is a cause of Americans being idiots and bigots.
I don't wanna hear another damn word about Palestine from young leftists, after they stayed home. You all need to shut the fuck up with your moralizing and bitching, when you won't even vote. Enjoy Trump, morons.
If a blowout this big occurred just because young leftists protested the genocide, it stands to reason that the democratic party made in error in judgement when they supplied more bombs to the genocide and scolded young leftists. They campaigned with Liz fucking Cheney and had Bill Clinton tell muslims in Michigan they deserve it. If you see this as anything other than a complete failure in leadership, you're delusional.
"Shut up about the genocide. It's bad for our polling numbers." That take is batshit insane. If you support a genocide and then can't figure out why you lost an election, you're hopeless.
You became a nazi to win and you lost. Now you're a loser and you're a nazi.
I think you need to removed yourself from the conversation.
I'm not American, you racist, colonial piece of shit
YOU who stayed home are now responsible for the destruction of Gaza that is coming. So maybe you're the Nazis. You all stayed home and hgave Netanyahu exactly what he wanted. And you can't even see it. Idiots
Less racist and colonial than your nazi ass considering you wanted me to support a settler colonial genocide and I wouldn't.
And fuck off. You're as American as your 90's US TV show reference. Don't wear burgerface and then try to distance yourself.
It's funny your white ass calling a native person a Nazi colonizer because I said Harris is better than Trump. I guess that means you think Trump is better, so enjoy it. Clearly you're his base racist and offensive and hateful to us brown folk
You wanted me to support a settler colonial genocide because your first hand experience is that it rules and should be exported?
Do you really think Trump is not going to back Netenyahu and let him do exactly as he pleases?
Now that there's no utility in it, can you please stop fucking lying about your side being better than it is?
For a while you were perfectly comfortable using banger lines like "genocide isn't on the ballot" so what the fuck do you think my response would be?
I have been consistent this entire time telling you what your side was doing wrong and what the consequences would be. And the entire time you've been condescending to me like it was me who was the child who needed to humble myself into the role of the student.
Few things :
That's a daring non-answer. I'm genuinely curious to know what stance you think Trump will take against Netenyahu's continued genocide.
Also, about what "my" side has done and what lines "I were perfectly comfortable using", or how I've been "condescending", we're strangers on the internet and that previous comment was my first one made to you. You don't have enough information about my point of view to assume as much as you did. Or maybe you simply mistaken me for another commenter.
Either way no need to engage in profanity, it gives your whole vibe an unnecessary violent undertone. I'm sincerely just curious to know more about where you come from ideologically and I think it can be done respectfully and with civility.
Literally the exact same position Biden has. The maximalist one. The only difference is that Trump doesn't have squishy hand-wringing liberals who must, and can, be appeased by the tiniest rhetorical gesture in the other direction. No material difference.
Feel like I've been more than clear on this point but if you needed it put in those terms, there ya go.
Hard disagree. You're no snowflake. I've had this argument a thousand times. It's not like there are that many silos of opinion makers in the first place. And it's not like you didn't say enough in the first place to not express the angle you're taking. This is such a tedious complaint... If it makes a difference to you, bring on the way in which you're different! Don't be shy!
Tolerate it like you tolerate the genocide. Holy shit your fucking priorities.
I just read this as telegraphing that you're unreachable to me. You're past engaging with the topic itself and now you're just looking to categorize me? Why?
Oh leftists voted, just not for anyone engaging in genocide.
Cry about it.
They shouldn't have stayed home. They should've voted for Jill Stein.
Better yet Claudia De La Crúz, if she is on your state's ballot.
With "allies" like these, who needs the republicans?