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In October 2020, Samuel Paty, a French teacher, was murdered following a false accusation by a 13-year-old student who claimed he’d shown anti-Muslim bias. The girl had made up the story to cover the fact she had been suspended from school for bad behaviour.

In reality, Paty’s lesson on free speech included optional viewing of Charlie Hebdo cartoons, but he hadn’t excluded anyone. The student’s story triggered a social media campaign led by her father, who, along with others, is now on trial for inciting hatred and connections to Paty’s attacker, an 18-year-old radicalized Chechen.

The school will be named the Samuel Paty School from next year.

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[–] Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

As a counter point, America has fewer gun restrictions and more convicts than Australia. Gun laws and government overreach do not seem connected.

[–] erev@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

America has a lot of government overreach too, don't get me wrong. I'm just saying that American gun laws were originally meant to be modeled after Swiss gun laws and if we had also adopted Swiss gun culture we wouldn't have the problems we do today.

[–] Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I understood your point. I was showing that not only does America have "a lot" of government overreach, it has "more" government overreach. An Australian is less likely to be shot by another of its citizens and less likely to be imprisoned, enslaved, or killed by its government.

[–] erev@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure, I can agree with that. But the amount of police corruption is also quite high in Australia. Not saying the US doesn't have that, but it's a lot of the same issues just without guns. I mean look at FriendlyJordies getting firebombed for whistleblowing on politicians.

[–] Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

I couldn't say where police corruption is worse if I'm honest, I would guess its worse in America. But, Police violence is absolutely worse in America.

Regardless, I think the take away is: "whatever the intention, guns don't equal civil liberties".