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[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 99 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)
[–] mister_flibble@lemm.ee 33 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Fun fact, it's actually been theorized that overlapping cave paintings like that were essentially a rudimentary form of animation, as flickering firelight would create the illusion of movement.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/ice-age-artists-may-have-used-firelight-to-animate-carvings-180979943/

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

what a rollercoaster of emotions: "please just have a video- oh they do! great. oh hold on that's a terrible video that shows absolutely nothing and just gives me a headache with its 5 frames per second, why did they even bother?"

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Look for a documentary called "Cave Of Forgotten Dreams" by Werner Herzog, about this cave.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I appreciate that you stated it in a way that the fun fact is there's a theory, and not that the theory was definitive fact. But it definitely seems plausible.

[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Damn man. At least they made the art they had banging around in their skulls.

Meanwhile I can’t do a thing I’ve got so much reference material for because “what if it’s not just the way I want”

you dumb bitch you can fix it if it sucks holy shit.

Edit: I wonder if cave painters had issues with.. not properly representing their vision.. their visions were… more bison shaped then, but all the same…

[–] perishthethought@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago

Lol, now I'm imagining 200 feet from this cave is the Cave of Initial Sketches.

[–] naun@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I wonder if they did a lot of drawings in dirt to get practice.

[–] Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Is this the cave where they built a full scale replica for visitors right next to the actual cave because the real cave is too sensitive to light?

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, this is that one.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I think it also has a lot to do with the humidity of human breath.

[–] MrShankles@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Holy shit... that is incredible. Thank you for the insight! I never knew and am at a bit at a loss for words — just... awe

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've known about Chauvet cave for years, and I'm still in awe every time I see a picture of it. To think most images in this cave are around 35,000 years old. Human history (written history) is maybe 6,000 years old. This is more than 5 times older than that. Humans existed, and were creating things like this, for 30,000 years before the written word.

Pablo Picasso visited the Lascaux Cave (also in France, but much younger), and said the following:

“We have learned nothing in twelve thousand years.”
― Pablo Picasso

I linked this above, but check out Cave of Forgotten Dreams documentary on this cave.

[–] MrShankles@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

“We have learned nothing in twelve thousand years.”
― Pablo Picasso

That's an almost perfect way to describe how it makes me feel — though that statement's a little more profound than just 'awesome' lol

I'm absolutely going to check-out all the info you linked, and thank you. I just got off work this morning and will undoubtedly end up going through it... cause it's still blowing my tiny little brain a bit someway. One of the coolest things I've learned in a while

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

looks like we had a big cavemen artist in there actually

[–] colmear@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

And then you look at paintings from the Middle Ages and wonder how people evolved backwards