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[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Here’s my anicdotal account:

I have driven high more hours than I have driven sober. I have only ever gotten a ticket or gotten in an accident when completely sober. Despite the assumptions, so far the data points towards me being a safer driver while high on a normal amount of weed.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Are there sufficient studies out there showing fewer accidents while under the influence of weed? Or negligible effect?

Else, I'm gonna have to press X to doubt, and really would rather wait on further studies before letting you think your self-reported performance is convincing.

Weed affects your cognition, I hope we can agree on this. How adversely for driving, according to dose, that I don't know. Though I don't think anyone should accept people telling you "nah, it's fine, trust me bro. I only got into an accident when I was sober!"

Cars are deadly, and you ought to be sober while operating heavy machinery.

Stop doing it until studies are done (and, they will, given how widespread it's use is legally now), but heck, pressing all sorts of X to doubt on this turning out to be true. It affects your attention. And cars are deadly, so.

You are morally obligated to err on the side of caution here.

Stop driving high, please.

Yikes. Hecking big yikes.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I didn’t intend to imply it is the case for everyone, I was just saying that has been the experience for me. Results vary.

Nearly every medication changes your cognition—even OTC antihistamines. People should make the decisions that are best for them—know thyself.

One last time, I don’t endorse this style of living for everyone, but it works for me, and you might be surprised at the sheer number of people who operate vehicles while stoned safely.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world -3 points 2 weeks ago

Nearly every medication changes your cognition—even OTC antihistamines.

I don't know what it's like in your country, but in mine depending on the level of impact it will say on the packet, and is illegal to drive while under the influence of any medication that impacts your ability to drive safely or operate heavy machinery.

I didn’t intend to imply it is the case for everyone

People should make the decisions that are best for them—know thyself.

One last time, I don’t endorse this style of living for everyone, but it works for me

Nah, this is not okay.

I do not accept this as a reasonable way to determine what we allow as societies in terms of vehicular safety. Someone's freedom to decide for themselves what they consider to be safe, stops at everyone else's freedom to not be run over. I very much assert what's safe should be determined with science and enforced with regulation/laws. Not by everyone personally deciding for themselves.

You might be surprised at the sheer number of people who operate vehicles while stoned safely.

Dosing aside (I'm not making claims on what level is safe). We have a very important saying in my industry: just because a safety event hasn't happened yet, isn't evidence that a practice is acceptably safe. (Paraphrased). This is literally what habitual drunk drivers who aren't that drunk when they drive tell themselves "it's fine", because they haven't had a crash and are very careful. Sure, but they're increasing the likelihood of a crash nonetheless.

There may well be people out there who have driven high without incident, my response would be 1. Let's quantify that first before allowing it, and 2. They do this without incident, so far.

I'm sure you're very careful, and don't drive too high. You may never have a serious accident. But on a societal level, that's just not an acceptable way to determine what is acceptably safe. Who are you to say that you aren't increasing the likelihood of harm to someone else?

Wanna decide everything for yourself? Go live in the middle of nowhere, away from everyone else, where your decisions won't impact others.

Don't drive high unless you can back up your claims with more than "trust me bro".

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Dude do NOT drive while high you're going to fucking kill someone innocent

[–] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world -4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

We knew when you advocated for driving high that you do drive high. You pothead losers are all the same.

[–] Backlog3231@reddthat.com 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Woah hey not all of us stoners advocate for dangerous driving. I also condemn high driving. The problem is that THC interferes with your ability to focus (at least for me). Distracted driving is dangerous driving.

Personally though, my fight is against a culture of car dependency. Better bike, bus, and rail infrastructure, combined with an investment in urbanized, high density housing would tackle this problem head on and lead to significant culture change and damage reduction, but Americans are allergic to well designed urban areas.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

Personally though, my fight is against a culture of car dependency.

Amen to that. Car-centric infrastructure has so many negative effects on society and the environment that go way beyond the issue of people driving while high. Reducing car dependency addresses so many problem at once.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago

You don’t know me.