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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 72 points 4 weeks ago (11 children)

I mean, so can I in a sense -- guys passed out on my couch. "Yup, he's too high to drive."

In seriousness, I wish they'd just bust people driving recklessly. It's almost every day now that I'm almost side swiped by an aggressive muscle car driver; it's driving me crazy. I don't care what they're on, alcohol, cocaine, meth, or just pure uncut Machismo, I need those people fucking jailed before it's my kid on the news about getting hit and run'd.

[–] pinkystew@reddthat.com 6 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

We as a society must have a solution which is not the police solving every fucking inconvenience. They are literally killing us in our own homes. Please do the difficult mental work of figuring out a better solution than "call the cops". I know it's convenient but our overreliance on it has resulted in one the greatest incarceration crisis of our lifetime. I know you're angry but please start thinking of other ways to solve problems.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Odd for you to call vehicular manslaughter an inconvenience, but let's be clear: you can both reduce police involvement where it is not needed (such as mental health crisis) while still maintaining some order for actual dangerous offenders. You can also approach a problem from multiple angles, such as making prisons more about rehabilitation than punishment, or addressing future crime by investing in education and family welfare.

None of that means you also can't address a very local problem of 40,000 annual hit and runs with 8,000 deaths. Living in South LA, you literally see street take overs at least once a week usually with stolen cars. Doing two things at once- that is, addressing the current problems while also preventing future ones- shouldn't be difficult for someone "doing the mental work" like yourself.

[–] pinkystew@reddthat.com -2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

How many of those 40,000 hit and runs with 8000 deaths were prevented by police officers?

Your strategy doesn't work.

If police and prisons made us safer, we'd be the safest country on the planet. We're not. Police hurt people after a crime has been committed, not before. Your strategy does. not. work.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

That's the point of police reform. They weren't prevented because reckless driving isn't enforced here. The police here suck, and have always sucked, and should be replaced and reformed.

Now, if you're done misconstruing my argument to fit your virtue signaling, why don't you say the solution to hit and run drivers, and while you're at it, street take overs?

[–] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago

Get rid of stops for small shit like expired tabs or dim taillights so traffic cops can focus on unsafe driving. John Oliver did a pretty good piece on this recently.

https://youtu.be/E8ygQ2wEwJw?si=Hse7NbqRhwlQEEa8

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

You aren’t wrong but the overincarceration is largely sentence lengths not arrest rates

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Actual reckless driving needs to be enforced though. It needs to be something you go to jail for, your car gets towed, and you can't drive again until the fine is paid, and you take Driver's Ed. There are people out here doing 20+ mph faster than everyone else and weaving through the merge lane and shoulder because the HOV lane and farthest travel lane are flowing at 80 and that's just too slow for them. This is not, "every fucking inconvenience". These people are driving like they're the object of a police chase already and police aren't allowed to do it anymore because it's so dangerous to other people on the road.

So while I get you don't like the police, I'm not sure how else you're going to stop McFuckStick from swiping that family of four into the back of a semi truck.

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