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[–] airbussy@lemmy.one 9 points 3 weeks ago (45 children)

All these answers are so killjoy and boring. Like yeah we should strive to make our own planet better, but why not also do this? Building habitats on other worlds doesn't prevent us from caring for this one.

Plus maybe trying to make a liveable environment in space can give us new insights in preserving the one at home. Like how solar panels have come from space exploration.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (31 children)

All these answers are so killjoy and boring.

Yes, fantasizing about billionaires fixing everything by making good on their bullshit marketing pitches is very exciting to credulous people.

Building habitats on other worlds doesn't prevent us from caring for this one.

If you believe that there's some magic means to have zero emissions launches into space that are in any way self-sustained without further launches to keep throwing resources after spent resources from an increasingly polluted, depleted, and warming Earth, sure, you can huff that hopium deep and hard and ignore the worsening material reality all around you.

Plus maybe trying to make a liveable environment in space can give us new insights in preserving the one at home.

You've bought deeply into billionaire bullshit and their bogus promises, especially as privatized space travel in the west becomes increasingly vanity tourism and marketing stunts. The accomplishments that such companies' underpaid and overworked workers achieve are not for the common good, nor can they be because they are publicly subsidized private companies seeking to maximize profits and expand their own venture capital appeal, and nothing more.

[–] witx@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 3 weeks ago (27 children)

You seem to be letting your hatred for Musk confuse you about space exploration. NASA and other governmental agencies do very important work when it comes to space exploration

[–] lunar_solstice@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

He has Musk Derangement Syndrome 🀣🀣🀣

Too much time reading clickbait

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

"DAE le Musk Derangement Syndrome?"

bazinga

Techbros are burning the world down in swathes to fuel their theftboxes at best, and artificial lovers at worst, Neuralink just fucked some guy's brains up, Cybertrucks keep failing left and goddamn right, but sure, let's just chalk all this up to "Musk Derangement Syndrome" jesus fucking christ I hate you techbro settlers. Please die young of something preventable.

[–] lunar_solstice@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Can you string together 2 sentences without culture war tropes?

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Culture war is when a person points out the chauvinism inherent in cracker fantasies about colonizing the stars because there is nowhere left to colonize here without just admitting to themselves they just want to subjugate everyone and everything on earth and above.

@frauddogg@hexbear.net is 100% correct in every single comment they have made in this thread.

I can't really even add anything to this other than say they right fuck off.

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"As below, so above" might as well be the settler-colonizer's ethos. "As I subjugate everything below me, I must reach for what's above." At what point is Polly satisfied?

Never, apparently. Humanity will go extinct thanks to this malign tumor on our collective neck.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Also funny how libs mistake actual structural material analysis as "culture war tropes" because their framework for viewing the world is constrained by their MSNBC vs Fox News idea of good and bad and anything that challenges it must be from the wrong side of said culture war. Which funnily enough is also culture war bullshit.

"Surely I can't be racist I'm one of the good white people!"

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

because their framework for viewing the world is constrained by their MSNBC vs Fox News idea of good and bad

Kinda outs their whole "war is a football game to you" allegation as pure projection, doesn't it? There is fundamentally zero difference between the 'cUlTuRe WaR', the electoral race, and the "professional" handegg games that will go on in two days for these settler liberals.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah they will smugly condescend to us with their "not a team sport" shit all the while demanding we vote for their particular team because harm reduction or whatever. Meanwhile every president and 99% of congress people of either party in my 40 years has done the same genocidal shit.

[–] FrogPrincess@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Are you doing a bit?

The allegation was that you're pulling everything back to culture wars, and you instantly started talking about "MSNBC vs Fox" and the USA's two-party system. In a thread about China's space program.

Not beating the allegations.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Where the hell was China even brought up? This thread afaik is about settler brainworms regarding space colonization.

Like colonize is literally in the title of this post.

Allegations of what exactly. What are you alleging about me?

[–] FrogPrincess@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Allegations of what exactly. What are you alleging about me?

Being unable to formulate a thought, because you're addicted to drawing culture war lines.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

I am not even the person that you initially responded to. You're just a lib that is in way over your head in a topic you refuse to engage in critically because it makes you uncomfortable.

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Can you string two together without coating your tongue in c-suite low quarter polish?

Die in a vessel fire, colonizer. Infinite Apollo 1s on every settler trying to expand their necrotic reach to the stars.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ironically enough in their fantasy about reaching mars with privatized space planes that is an extremely likely scenario lol

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I keep thinking about what's been happening to Boeings lately and smiling. "C'mon, bazinga, go see the stars." [stick-poke meme]

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That submarine stunt was one of the funniest things that has ever happened.

Honestly if we wanted to do something neat that is almost exactly like settling an alien landscape we should invest in more deep sea research.

We don't even know shit about Giant Squid which are like the coolest most alien thing on earth.

[–] FrogPrincess@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Techbros are burning the world down in swathes to fuel their theftboxes at best, and artificial lovers at worst, Neuralink just fucked some guy’s brains up, Cybertrucks keep failing left and goddamn right, but sure, let’s just chalk all this up to β€œMusk Derangement Syndrome” jesus fucking christ I hate you techbro settlers. Please die young of something preventable.

lol this sounds like you have smoke coming out your ears writing it

[–] witx@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Meh I dislike Musk as well but I don't let that cloud my judgement of his companies or science/engineering in general.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't let that cloud my judgement of his companies

That says a lot about you, then. The guy's a fascist but you don't care because so-true muh bazingamobiles and space crap!

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Polly's Tenet: "I can excuse anything from anyone if it means my treats arrive on time". My parrot is literally more disciplined than these settler shitstains.

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

He isn't even the guy behind any discovery his manifold bought-up companies make. He's just the nepobaby failspawn of blood emerald mining company money in South Africa; and as far as I'm concerned, that makes anything that comes out of his companies while he helms them fruit of the poison tree.

We do not support, uplift, or patronize colonizers, slavers, resource-extracting thieves, or any combination of the three in this house.

[–] LilyRose1919@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He isn’t even the guy behind any discovery his manifold bought-up companies make.

Then stop obsessing on him maybe? The thread was supposed to be about space stations and stuff.

[–] m532@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

melon-musk and those other bazingas are all the same

Colonizer fantasies and zero knowledge about how anything works

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