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Supporting someone currently committing genocide is an explicitly pro genocide stance.
I pray that you and your family are someday accorded the same mercy as you have for Gazans.
I'm sure if Trump wins it will be of great comfort to the millions more Palestinians dying in the genocide that their deaths will be useful to your smug sense of superiority.
Having a hard line of support for genocide should not be a high bar to clear. Look at yourself in the mirtor and say, "I vote for genociders".
See, the difference between me and you is that I care about the people who are still alive, not just the ones who are dead. I'm not okay with letting millions of innocent people die just so I don't have to "support genocide". I'm sure your conscience is more important than their lives though.
You explicitly support the continued genocide of Palestinians.
You are a white supremacist.
You are explicitly pro more death.
You cannot make me sit idly by and do nothing while innocents die.
It takes a very special relationship with the truth to read what I said and think, "wow that person only cares about dead people".
So why won't you do anything for the people who are still alive, then?
Are you high?
You are, in fact, completely okay with letting millions of innocent people die. I'm sorry you're in denial.
If you think your inaction will result in saving the life of a single person you are completely disconnected from reality. I'm sorry you're in denial.
Who's inaction? I'm taking action as are millions. Voting for their genocide is not an action that saves lives.
Funny how many people on Lemmy totally claim they're totally taking action without ever having a single one of them actually saying what that action might be. I'm sure you're totally doing lots and not just calling people who disagree with you names on an obscure website though.
Protesting, mutual aid networks, volunteering for charities aiding the Palestinians. I've helped raise two million for unrwa, before Israel and the US started slaughtering them.
Voting for genocide does not help the victims of genocide, current or future.
Sure, sure. I totally believe you. All this just happened to happen completely disconnected from anything on Lemmy, but as soon as someone calls you out suddenly you've always been a saint. I totally buy it. Totally.
I'm not a saint, I'm a generic human doing the bare minimum. If you think anything in that previous comment was brag worthy, you're objectively bad at being a human and I'm not sure you can be helped. You're a bad person.
Pfft, I'm not the one telling anyone that wanting less people to die is supporting genocide and claiming to have raised two million dollars on the basis of trust me bro.
Yes let me completely dox myself to a random government supporting person that thinks genocide is necessary. That always ends well, fed.
Sure, you totally raised millions of dollars for a cause that the government is opposed to, but they totally don't know who you are. Sure, dude. And yeah, harm reduction is totally the same thing as supporting the government. There can be no disagreement. Either you agree with every word I say or you're a fed. Those are the only options.
Man, Lemmy sure is a shithole where leftists go when they know they've failed but want an echo chamber to tell them they're totally right about everything.
There is no lesser evil in genocide.
Period.
Your life, your rights, are not worth genocide, period.
Tell that to the people whose lives are on the line.
Hi, that's me. My life is on the line. It is not worth the genocide of an entire people.
If you believe your life is, you need to die. Not calling for violence, before the report. If a person believes they should continue existing by killing other humans, that person needs to die. They cannot be allowed to continue existing. Every time someone like that gains popularity and power, a genocide happens. Every single time. People like that aren't human, they lack empathy which is required for human society to function.
Nah, bullshit. Don't lie to me. You aren't this stupid. If Trump wins Rafah will be a crater and violence will be escalating in the West Bank within a month. I'm not willing to watch those people die just to send a message. That's genocide just as surely as anything the Democrats are doing. Those are the lives that matter. Those are the lives I'm talking about. If you can't bring yourself to stop that, you don't actually care about genocide. You just want to be self-righteous.
Just because it sucks, doesn't mean it isn't true. The simple fact of the matter is that the statements "The Democrats are supporting a genocidal regime in Israel." and "If Trump becomes president Netanyahu will destroy Rafah and expand the violence into the West Bank." are not mutually exclusive statements. Taking a simple quick action to prevent one does not stop me from fighting the other. In fact, doing nothing to stop the worse case is supporting genocide. There will be more genocide if we all do nothing, and I have never seen any leftist actually suggest taking any action here on Lemmy. It's never about doing anything. It's always about what not to do. If that's all you've got, then you've already failed.
You are explicitly pro genocide.
You cannot make me support genocide.
You are explicitly pro more death.
You cannot make me sit idly by and do nothing while innocents die.
That is what you are doing now.