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[–] dreyln@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Will it be released to F-Droid at the same time as the Google Play store?

[–] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sync is not open source and Fdroid only allows open source.

[–] cheerjoy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The main repo is open source only, but there are others

[–] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Adding other repos that have nothing to do with f-droid has nothing to do with f-droid... calling 3rd party repos f-droid just because you are able to add them to their app is disingenuous and shows a lack of understanding of what f-droid actually is.

F-Droid is an installable catalogue of FOSS (Free and Open Source Software) applications for the Android platform.

That is the first sentence on their official site.

[–] cheerjoy@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fdroid is just a program that lets you download apps from repos. Why would an Fdroid repo have nothing to do with Fdroid?

[–] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

F-Droid is an installable catalogue of FOSS (Free and Open Source Software) applications for the Android platform.

That is the first sentence on their official site. Again, just because they have an app that allows you to add other repos doesn't mean those other repos are a part of f-droid... they are not, and it's absolutely ridiculous to say otherwise.

Why would an Fdroid repo have nothing to do with Fdroid?

Because those other repos are not f-droid repos, they are 3rd party repos that have nothing to do with f-droid. Just because you can add them to the f-droid app doesn't mean they then become f-droid repos. I use droidify, and I can add any repo to it that I want including f-droid, but that doesn't mean that all the repos I add to it then become droidify repos.

You misunderstand how package managers work.

[–] TheHighRoad@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just saying, nobody loves a pedant.

[–] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Looks like you're talking from personal experience based on your comment history, but I'm not being a pendant... I'm making a very simple correction. And I did so patiently. F-droid does not want their project to be conflated with 3rd party repos so people shouldn't do it. It's that fucking simple... I'm really not sure why this has been difficult to understand, nor why it required any further explanation, nor why it prompted personal attacks from insecure douchnozzles.

[–] TheHighRoad@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I apologize for douchenozzling up the thread. I actually appreciate the explanation as it was informative, but it is pedantic to focus on that instead of answering the original question.

[–] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The comment I replied to was about whether it would be released to f-droid, and when I read that, it sounds like someone is under the wrong impression on how f-droid works which is the reason I corrected them. Others also got that impression and corrected them.

For those that care about FOSS, the distinction is very important,... which makes it not pedantic for us.

[–] TheHighRoad@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Can't argue with that, was just trying to point out why people were reacting negatively is all.

[–] RunAwayFrog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your aggressive tone is predictably inappropriate considering your failure at applying simple logic. You would only have a partial excuse if you're 11y/o or something.

There is f-droid the app store, and f-droid.org's main repo. See, it's not that hard.

just because they have an app that allows you to add other repos doesn’t mean those other repos are a part of f-droid

And that app is called... get it?

Because those other repos are not f-droid repos

Repos made to work in the f-droid app are not f-droid repos... wow

Is the f-droid.org's archive repo not an f-droid repo, too. lol.

Please tell me you're not an adult!

The thing is, you started on the right track:

Sync is not open source and Fdroid only allows open source.

Here, you are on the right. And you could have followed up later by simply pointing out that "Will it be released to F-Droid" usually means "Will it be on f-droid.org's FOSS-only main repo", but you decided to rant some weird incoherent shit, and insisted on dying on a hell of straws instead!

[–] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Your aggressive tone is predictably inappropriate considering your failure at applying simple logic.

Lmao, is that a projection of some sort? Are you able to read the tone of your reply to me? Yeah, don't cast stones if you live in a glass house my guy. You are a hypocrite at best... I won't attack you any further.

The repos made to work with f-droid are f-droid compatible repos... they are not f-droid repos. There is only one f-droid repo, and that is their actual, official repo. All other 3rd party repos, are f-droid compatible repos. I'm so sorry you can't follow this basic logic... it's outlined on their official site... unless you can show me on their official site where they refer to 3rd party repos directly as "f-droid repos" then you're the one that struggles with simple logic.

fdroid compatible repo != fdroid repo

[–] cheerjoy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for editing your comments to change the meaning of them and shift the focus of my comment instead of telling me why you wouldn't like Sync for Lemmy to host its own Fdroid repo as was the intended focus of my original comment.

[–] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm clarifying. I'm trying to decide the best way to frame it because you quite obviously still don't understand by your latest comment.

Sync can not be in the f-droid repo because it is not open source. End of story.

You clearly think any 3rd party repo that can be added to f-droid is called an f-droid repo, and that is flat out wrong.

[–] cheerjoy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never said to add it to the main repo operated by the F-droid team. I suggested adding it to an alternative 3rd-party repo that allows non-open source applications.

Obviously a repository compatible with F-droid can be called an F-droid repo, and is called as such by both the community and in official documentation. That doesn't mean its necessarily owned or operated by the F-droid dev team as you seem to think I'm implying.

[–] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't care what Izzy does. Other repos like the Guardian Project, MicroG, Bromite, NewPipe, Calyx use correct verbiage. But the only thing that matters is F-droid and what they say, so let's look at that link you provided:

Known Repositories A list that tries to keep track of known F-Droid compatible repositories.

Notice it says F-droid comptiable repositories, not f-droid repositories.

And then following that link:

These repositories are compatible with an F-Droid client application. The F-Droid project is not responsible for any third party repositories.

Again, F-Droid doesn't want 3rd party repos to be confused with itself... so yeah, I take issue with calling 3rd party repos F-droid repos. It's just dumb to do anyway for anyone with experience with package managers. If I add some 3rd party repo to Ubuntu, I'm not going to call it an Ubuntu repo.

[–] RazorsLedge@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Has LJ said it'll run without Google Play? I certainly hope so.

[–] dreyln@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I̶ w̶a̶s̶ p̶r̶e̶v̶i̶o̶u̶s̶l̶y̶ u̶s̶i̶n̶g̶ S̶y̶n̶c̶ v̶i̶a̶ F̶-̶D̶r̶o̶i̶d̶ a̶s̶ m̶y̶ m̶o̶b̶i̶l̶e̶ r̶e̶d̶d̶i̶t̶ c̶l̶i̶e̶n̶t̶, s̶o̶ I̶ w̶a̶s̶ a̶s̶s̶u̶m̶i̶n̶g̶ i̶t̶ w̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ b̶e̶ a̶n̶ o̶p̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ f̶o̶r̶ t̶h̶e̶ L̶e̶m̶m̶y̶ v̶e̶r̶s̶i̶o̶n̶, b̶u̶t̶ I̶ h̶a̶v̶e̶n̶'t̶ s̶e̶e̶n̶/h̶e̶a̶r̶d̶ o̶n̶e̶ w̶a̶y̶ o̶r̶ t̶h̶e̶ o̶t̶h̶e̶r̶. edit - I was wrong. I must have got Sync from the Playstore.

[–] itadakimasu@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It's not open source