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‘They will vote against Harris’: Arab Americans in Michigan desert Democrats over Gaza (www.theguardian.com)

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Stephen Starr in Hamtramck, Michigan
Mon 14 Oct 2024 11.00 EDT

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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

This is limiting the scope of thought to four years.

Democrats winning means genocide becomes fully normalized forever, whereas if Trump wins it means four more years of genocide but the democrats will have learnt they cannot ignore the left.

In the short term Trump will be more damaging, but in the long term it is very debatable which is worse.

[–] darth_tiktaalik@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Democrats winning means genocide becomes fully normalized forever,

Even more so if the guy who openly said murder is a genetic predisposition wins.

Who for the record is Donald J Trump.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Genocide is already normalized for republicans. If democrats get to normalize it as well, there will be no non-genocide option in 2028.

When you never draw a red line you signal that they can keep pushing the boundaries of evil.

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hmm. I can understand this perspective. I guess its a bit tough. As a trans person I would find it very hard to do anything that isn't actively working against trump being in power, because if he gets in power it's very likely that my life will be in danger (if I was an American). But at the same time, as mentioned before, it wouldn't be an easy sell for me to be voting pro-harris.

I guess your scenario doesn't mean you're going to vote for trump, just that you'll vote third party or spoil your ballot?

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Directly voting for Trump will have the opposite effect. It will show democrats they should be more like Republicans because everyone was voting for Trump.

By putting the votes in a visible place (a third party), the democrats will observe they are missing out on a lot of votes which are directly cast for a left wing agenda. And instead of Dick Cheney they might show up with a left winger in their next campaign to win over those third party voters.

Donald Trump will not be a benefit in the short term. But rewarding democrats for only appealing to right wing voters will not be a benefit in the long term. They will shift even more to the right in 2028.

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, that's what I thought.