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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/21396125

Stephen Starr in Hamtramck, Michigan
Mon 14 Oct 2024 11.00 EDT

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

“We are in a moment where our community is suffering and hurting in more ways than we can count. We have also seen four years under a Trump presidency and what that did to our community, and the risks that come with that,” said a spokesperson for Arab Americans for Harris-Walz. “We’re not saying that with a Harris administration there is no risk, but under a Trump administration, the risk is much higher. We believe [backing Harris] is a more favorable path forward for us here in the United States and in our home countries.”

It's not too late, Kamala can pivot to the left and pledge to obey the Lehey law.

If she does, then Israel either changes their behavior or they stop getting any military aid/arms from America.

That's all that needs done, Kamala to pledge to follow the law.

It's not a big ask from voters, and it would hand her the votes she needs in the states she needs to win the election.

[–] simplymath@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Wild that you're getting down voted for wanting to comply with international humanitarian law.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The problem is that Kamala (along with every politician in the U.S.) has to weigh the how much support they will lose if they support ceasing armaments to Israel with how much they will gain by doing so. I’m betting the polling data shows fairly conclusively that they’d stand to lose more voter support by ceasing arms shipments to Israel than they’d gain. At the very least, I’m betting that’s the fear of a lot of Democrats.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So you think trump giving aid to Russia against US law would be ok if it gets him votes?

This is the exact reason turnout is low.

Lots of voters won't hold their nose to blatant crimes even if the only other option does more crimes...

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I didn't say I approved of it, I just said that's the political calculus.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But you understand how Biden breaking US and international law makes people who are disengaged think both parties are the same?

Like, we can tell at them and scold them that it's better when Dems do it...

Or Kamala can come out and say she'll follow the law. Considering she has said multiple times she has no issues with how Biden has done things and wouldn't have done anything different...

That only hurts Dems and makes trump (way worse shit) look acceptable.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, that’s nice. You’re still appealing to something moral though, and what I’m trying to tell you is that that’s mostly irrelevant to politicians. They know they need to appeal to the masses to stay in power if they want to do anything, so appeal to the masses they will. And the masses don’t really care about international law.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

and what I’m trying to tell you is that that’s mostly irrelevant to politicians.

And what I'm trying to tell you, is even when a politician has the correct letter by their name, they're not infallible...

The people running Kamala's campaign and the DNC are the same ones running stuff in 2016 and 2020.

They have a 1-1 record against trump, and it only worked last time because Bernie drug them to the left.

You need to focus on what voters do, not politicians. And if significant voters didn't care about Morales, the article you're commenting under wouldn't exist

They know they need to appeal to the masses to stay in power if they want to do anything, so appeal to the masses they will.

They only "appeal to voters" when it involves moving to the right.

People want things to the left of Kamala too, and they'd actually vote for Kamala, so it makes sense "chasing" the left, not for Kamala to chase trumpets.