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For decades, we have been in the streets in defense of the Palestinian people, and will continue to fight until the total liberation of Palestine!

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (124 children)

This is great, and I completely agree with you, and on November 5th I'm going to cast a ballot for Kamala Harris because Trump will be worse. You should, too.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago (15 children)

Do you care about stopping fascism? Then you must study its history, and come to the understanding that it can only be opposed by socialist organizing.

Go join a socialist org. Vote for whoever you want to but don't pretend like voting for Kamala Harris will stop the crisis.

To oppose fascism with conviction, you have to build up a socialist project.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Right, but you're making my point for me. You can't build up a socialist project by running a third party presidential campaign. You need a grassroots movement, with local politicians, ideological outreach, volunteer organizations, and voter evangelism.

It's like we've built a house, and we're painting the ceilings, and someone asks you which paint you like, and you say that you don't like the location of the house. You might be right, but that's not the decision we're faced with right now. Your choices are matte ceiling white and human feces. "Relocate the house, because this is a bad spot for a house," you say. Well, that's not going to happen, so white or shit? "Move the house. Everybody, let's all vote to move the house." No. You can have an opinion on the ceiling color, or you can fuck off, but there is a clear choice to be made. If you fuck off, your ceiling may be painted with human shit, and if you don't think that matters enough to have an opinion, I don't know what to tell you.

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[–] chobeat@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago (10 children)

why? how? how do you rationalize this when the Biden administration is openly endorsing and supporting genocide? How could Trump make it worse? Write racist slurs on the bombs sent to Israel?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

Write racist slurs on the bombs sent to Israel?

Liberals literally believe this, that's why they keep talking about that one Nazi who signed a bomb sent to Gaza.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They are a genocide supporter but they know it is gauche to admit it.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

One thing I can say about the Zionists is that they're honest. They're wrong, but they're honest.

It's hard to respect anybody who, on the one hand, opposes Harris for her support of genocide, but on the other hand votes for her anyway.

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I agree with you in theory, but I'm voting for a genocidal fascist in practice.

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[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't vote for parties endorsed by dick cheney, sorry :/

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