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As a medical user, I really hope she will stick to this if elected. Trump is doing more "leave it up to the states" bullshit except specifically for Florida and no other state.

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[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Best way to get the young male vote to be honest. Isn't this part of what made Ron Paul popular?

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ron Paul wass popular becausue of his racist newsletter back in the 80's. Everything else was just whitewash.

[–] croaker@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ron Paul wasn't popular because of a racist newsletter. He was popular because the libertarian ideals he espoused were appealing to internet dwellers that hadn't experienced real life yet.

[–] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Man, I'm happy someone else might remember that time on Reddit which I could only call "peak cringe". Everyone and their mother seemed to love Ron Paul on that site

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Wasn't that really the days of Digg? I can't even remember such eons ago...

I sadly was one of those duped, hot off of reading Atlas Shrugged no less at a more impressionable time in my life. Thank fuck I crawled my way out.

[–] smooth_tea@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Bit easy to dismiss millions of people because they aren't cynical or bitter and then equating that to basically being young and dumb. Perhaps reality is what it is because it's always the Bush' and Clinton's, who only marginally affect the status quo, and never the Ron Paul's, who see inherent issues with the system, or 'reality', and at least have somewhat of an inclination to improve it.

[–] smooth_tea@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

To me, a European, he was one of the very few, if any, candidates that made sense and seemed consistent in how he voted and spoke. And I consider myself to be quite libertarian.

I don't really understand your remark to be honest, other than shoehorning the "he made a racist remark" thing into the conversation. Perhaps you could elaborate.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The point is that Ron Paul was a true, modern, libertarian in that his "freedom" and "liberty" shtick was always about freedom to do segregation via "freedom of association" and other such nonsense. Ron Paul created the libertarian to fascist pipeline because libertarianism has mever been anything but veiled racism

[–] smooth_tea@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Your entire theory hinges on a racist remark that he didn't even write and was possibly unaware of. Unless I'm missing something groundbreaking on page 2 and 3 of that article which I can't read because it's paywalled.

Is there anything Ron Paul did politically that would suggest fascist ideologies? The word is thrown around a lot these days.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

His company, his newsletter, his name on it. Often tomes racist shot was directly attributes to him. So either he believed in that, condoned it, or felt that racism was a great vehicle to sell his ideology. I'm not sure whoch of those makes him a good person, or makes his ideology not about racism.

[–] smooth_tea@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

So he was a fascist/racist who spent his entire life in politics without ever showing a sign of that ideology, was he waiting to spring his trap?

I'm not here to vouch for the guy, I'm just on the outside looking in, but this seems like a bunch of conjecture in its purest form.

Also, am I reading you correctly that you think racism is a great vehicle to sell the idea of libertarianism?