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[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

You right wing trolls always want to find some excuse to say us leftists are the real bigots. So on your way to erase asexuals, demand children get into sexual relationships, and make apology for sexual harassers, you have to include some quip about your made up 4D mental gymnastics that say us asexuals are evil for admitting that one of our own might tell a sexual abuser to go commit unalive.

So although you won't admit it upsets you when I say this, I will still offend you with the statement "asexual people deserve to be allowed to live."

[–] Nbard@aussie.zone 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I do mean this very sincerely: Please seek help.

I am not right wing. I am not erasing asexuals. I I'm literally a grey demi ace.

The fact that you literally cannot conceive of someone interprting a literal thousand year old myth differently from you without not only demonising them, but creating an entire structure around it is severely worrying.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The myths say Narcissus rejected Eros and all lovers. Ancient Greeks didn't have the word "asexual". Expecting them to describe things in modern language is a failure of your ability to interpret things from their point of view and understand cultural differences. You're holding ancient peoples to an impossible standard. The work of a historian or archaeologist is to understand ancient cultures well enough to interpret their words, and not to take everything literally.

There is no evidence that Narcissus was allosexual. What you're doing is treating straight as the default, and demanding an unreasonable standard of proof to confirm that a character is queer. You've internalised queerphobia. And the reason I was aggressive with you, is because you began by attacking me and calling me queerphobic. You seem to have calmed down, so now let's talk facts. Narcissus displays zero evidence of any sexual or romantic desires in the text, except for when he's being cursed by a god who was told to make him love.

[–] Nbard@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No. We are not going to pretend this didn't happen.

You have called me a pedophile, you have called me a bigot, a homophobe and a sexual abuse enabler. Your behaviour has been frankly disgusting and unwarranted and you are going to apologise for that before any discussion continues from this point.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh, the reason I moved past that subject was because I assumed that when you stopped your aggressive behaviour, it was your way of apologising. A lot of people feel shame about the idea of saying sorry, so I thought you wanted to move past your mistakes and put them behind you. I was ready to forgive your behaviour. If you still want to talk about your aphobic actions, then I'll reiterate my earlier point that you're erasing queerness and that your entire argument serves to vilify a child for not having sex.

I will also remind you that you accused a fellow asexual of aphobia based on completely misunderstanding what I said, and you also tried to ignore that without apologising. I've been very forgiving of your mistakes. While I would sincerely like to receive an apology, I also understand if it's too difficult for you, and am happy to live and let live.