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[–] sozesoze@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yes these rights rights were lost, but this paints the GDR in a positive light regarding regarding civil rights when in reality people who showed a smidge of dissent were persecuted.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

when in reality people who showed a smidge of dissent were persecuted.

Look up how the stasi dealt with lgbt dissidents after being told to solve the issue and then come back here and say that with a straight face.

Dissidents for "hey we need to fix the problems of socialism" or dissidents for "we have to dissolve socialist democracy and let the capitalists pillage us" were treated very differently.

And the ones arguing for dissolving socialism got what they wanted, and the result is justification enough for their oppression tbh. Better to suppress right wing dissidents than let them oppress vast swathes of the population.

[–] sozesoze@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Dissidents for “hey we need to fix the problems of socialism” or dissidents for “we have to dissolve socialist democracy and let the capitalists pillage us” were treated very differently

Do you seriously tell yourself the GDR was a democratic socialist country? The GDR not being democratic was exactly it's problem and why it couldn't reform its problems. And yeah, the people only wanted to get oppressed by capitalists when they protested in Leipzig and Berlin. If you really believe that I don't know what to tell you. Are you some Wessi who doesn't know shit about life in the GDR?

And the ones arguing for dissolving socialism got what they wanted, and the result is justification enough for their oppression tbh.

Man, they wanted something better than the shit show that their life had become. They had many ideas about how they could reform their country. A new socialist constitution, a emancipated reunion with the West etc. All they knew was that it couldn't go on with the current SED clique.

How did the SED respond? Fucking off with the last money. They left their population with no help when they negotiated with Kohl. But hey, to you that's just capitalist propaganda probably. Now it's the people's fault that they got screwed by the capitalists pfffff

Better to suppress right wing dissidents than let them oppress vast swathes of the population.

Holy shit bro. Do you think Hohenschönhausen was filled with right wingers and capitalists and that your beloved party didn't oppress the population? First of right wing networks were left alone all over the country. What we see now in Thüringen and Sachsen didn't just hop over from the BRD after the wall fell. It merely got reinforced. Second, do you really think only right wing dissidents got suppressed? My father got in trouble because he stepped into the voting booth, NOT casting his vote openly for the SED. Democratic my ass bro, righteous suppression of right wingers lol. 100k Stasi agents 200k informants just for right wing dissidents, yeah right

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes these rights rights were lost, but this paints the GDR in a positive light regarding regarding civil rights

Because they were, especially ccompared to West Germany.

[–] sozesoze@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I’m not arguing for the BRD and how not fucked LGBTQ and women's rights were. I’m arguing against a picture that the GDR had better rights in general when in fact most people who didn’t strictly follow the party line were heavily suppressed and observed.

Edit: forgot women's rights