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I know there are lots of people that do not like Ubuntu due to the controversies of Snaps, Canonicals head scratching decisions and their ditching of Unity.

However my experience using Ubuntu when I first used it wasn't that bad, sure the snaps could take a bit or two to boot up but that's a first time thing.

I've even put it on my younger brothers laptop for his school and college use as he just didn't like the updates from Windows taking away his work and so far he's been having a good time with using this distro.

I guess what I'm tryna say is that Ubuntu is kind of the "Windows" of the Linux world, yes it's decisions aren't always the best, but at least it has MUCH lenient requirements and no dumb features from Windows 11 especially forced auto updates.

What are your thoughts and experiences using Ubuntu? I get there is Mint and Fedora, but how common Ubuntu is used, it seemed like a good idea for my bros study work as a "non interfering" idea.

Your thoughts?

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[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 108 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Every time this is asked, I post the same comment. I used Kubuntu for years and liked it, but more recently they started doing things that annoyed me. The biggest was related to snaps and Firefox. Now, sandboxing a browser is probably a great idea, but I wanted to use the regular deb install, so I followed the directions to disable the snap install and used the deb. However, Ubuntu overrode that decision several times - I'd start browsing, then realize I was using a snap AGAIN. Happened a few times over a couple years. If it happened once, eh, maybe an error, but it happened 3 or 4 times. I came to the conclusion I wasn't in control of my system, Ubuntu was.

I switched to Debian and am happy with my choice.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I had the same experience on my one gui Ubuntu machine. I also have several headless machines, and due to some shared libraries I always ended up with snapd installed even though none of the packages I was running were installed through snap. I always found it through the mount point pollution that snapd does.

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why do you care if it’s a snap or a Deb? To me the biggest problem with snap is the pollution in /dev/loop*.

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because I wanted it to integrate with 1password full client.

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I use 1Password and the Firefox snap with no problems. How is the deb different?

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The plugin works fine, but it can't call the separate program if you have that installed.

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I use Mac most of the time and I’ve found that the functionality on Mac has largely started following how 1Password works on Linux. Meaning that the desktop app functions as a standalone app to modify your password records and the browser plugin allows you to access or lightly edit those records. Older versions would let you call the desktop app with a simple plugin but since I switched to the 1password.com version that’s no longer the case. If you’re on 1Password 7 then what you’re saying makes sense.

As an aside, the function I use by far the most on Mac is command-shift-space to pop up a password search dialog that works very well. Not sure if that function exists on Linux.

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Looks like I'm on 1password 8 in Linux. For whatever reason, I just prefer the app instead of having the browser pop open 1password.com to edit records. I don't know why, it just bugs me. I know part of it is that I want to use the native app to show support for it.

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I stand quite corrected. I learned a lot about native messaging on Ubuntu and understand where you're coming from!