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[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 month ago (5 children)

On some level, he isn't wrong. It's all transcribed speeches, sort of like how we have no surviving writings of Aristotle, only notes taken by students during his lectures, or of course like the new testament which is a compendium of books written by people ranging from a few years after Jesus' death all the way out to a century thereafter.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Since this article is about pedantry I'd like to point out that I believe you meant to reference Socrates not Aristotle there - Socrates believed that education came through dialog and committing words to paper made them "dead" and open to misinterpretation. Socrates was essentially afraid that people would read words of his and pick apart technicalities so he preferred to teach people orally and then have those people teach others.

Plato may have committed some of these conversations to writing after the fact, though Plato may have also just used Socrates as a mouth piece to express his own idea. I'd classify both Plato and Socrates as chill... Aristotle on the other hand absolutely lacked any chill.

Aristotle wrote a lot and wrote it to achieve political gains - his philosophy was the one primarily embraced by Western Europe and is deeply flawed with a lot of extra built in misogyny (Plato was relatively progressive but still has some built in misogyny) and other bullshit. We do have surviving writing as notes from his students but most of his writing is actually his own.

What writings should I read to see examples of "built-in misogyny" (I've only read The Republic way back in undergrad)?

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