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cross-posted from: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/22423685

EDIT: For those who are too lazy to click the link, this is what it says

Hello,

Sad news for everyone. YouTube/Google has patched the latest workaround that we had in order to restore the video playback functionality.

Right now we have no other solutions/fixes. You may be able to get Invidious working on residential IP addresses (like at home) but on datacenter IP addresses Invidious won't work anymore.

If you are interested to install Invidious at home, we remind you that we have a guide for that here: https://docs.invidious.io/installation/..

This is not the death of this project. We will still try to find new solutions, but this might take time, months probably.

I have updated the public instance list in order to reflect on the working public instances: https://instances.invidious.io. Please don't abuse them since the number is really low.

Feel free to discuss this politely on Matrix or IRC.

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[–] Nima@leminal.space 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

i absolutely despise youtube. these fuckers are putting ads on paused videos now, and then this.

they will never get better. only worse. we need regulations badly.

[–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Peertube/Odysee exist, even if they are relatively niche.

[–] i_have_no_enemies@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

fuck off out of here with your nazi platforms

[–] Cistello@reddthat.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Pretty much every Alternative Tech platform also has a huge far right population Lemmy is an exception to this but has a decently sized far left population instead I dunno how it is now but a lot of people complained a couple of weeks ago about Nazis joining Bluesky and one of the guys from Bluesky covering them

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Mastadon has a huge far right population?

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Gab and Truth.social are Mastodon instances, just defederated by everyone else in case of the former, and not federating and pretending they're their own thing in case of the latter.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Did not know that. But that that's exactly how it is supposed to work.

[–] Cistello@reddthat.com 0 points 2 months ago

Poast is listed as one of the biggest instances You just don't notice it on Mastadon since a lot of them are defederated

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 months ago

that's true, but platforms like rumble were created to be homes to the far right. we shouldn't encourage their existence.

[–] Live_Let_Live@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well that's not true. You're very pro-genocide, as long as it's against Palestinians. That's pretty political.

[–] Live_Let_Live@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Not really, i just don’t want to see another islamist state

I use odysee, and so far it's been nice.

[–] hostops@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Competitor with no content, users is not a competitor. Youtube should be forced to share content they do not own. Just for the sake of competition.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The content isn't the problem. It's the delivery system. No one else has the storage and network capacity that Youtube has. And as a result of that, no one else has the built-in audience Youtube has. Putting your videos on YT is simply the best way to get views.

[–] inbeesee@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

I wish they'd nationalize stuff like YouTube, and online data storage, etc

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Paying Nebula subscriber here 🙋‍♂️

Pony up or your call for a competitor doesn’t mean anything. People don’t want ads? Fine. There has to be another revenue stream. Server capacity costs money, making a website and app cost money, and video creators need to eat.

[–] bilb@lem.monster 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Then isn't the obvious move to just pay for youtube?

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

I also do that. But Nebula is more thoroughly creator friendly. 50% of net profits go to creators and are divided by their share of watch time. That is a far more creator friendly policy than YT having a closed ad algorithm and you just get what you get. The YT display algorithm is also famously opaque and has some bullshit nanny filters on it such that you can’t actually make a faithful video about something like a historical massacre without being demonetized and hurting your channel in the algo.

There’s a lot I like about YT and being a premium subscriber does benefit creators there but I think Nebula is a next step in that evolution and it’s off to a decent start.

I pay for both.

[–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I do pony up for other services (not YT Premium because I won't give Google any money) and support a significant number of creators via Patreon, giving them more money by far than they'd ever see from me from ads. And I've spent thousands of hours on my own dime making written content and giving it away for nothing with no ads or tracking. So yes, I agree.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can you say more about the written content part? I’m not sure I understood. Are you giving YT creators scripts for videos?

[–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

Not that; I just write free books on how to write software.

[–] TheLastOfHisName@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Absolutely this. I pay for both my Proton and Notesnook accounts. No ads, no trafficing my data, and services I like and believe in.

[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Whatever happened to dailymotion?

[–] obbeel@lemmy.eco.br 0 points 2 months ago

Dailymotion does not allow for commenting anymore. That's why I stopped using it.

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Does anyone really post anything to Dailymotion besides blatantly unauthorized TV stuff? I can't imagine it'd be very good vibes for anyone trying to make an honest living with original content over there.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago

iirc they tried to become a tiktok clone, no idea how it went but considering i never see anyone talk about it i doubt it went very well

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (4 children)

You want regulations on ads for a free service?

The entitlement is wild.

[–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Works for Albania.

Its not like google fucking earned that money anyways. You don't earn billions of dollars.

Think about it. If you earned a million dollars a day, you'd be set for life. If you lived for a full hundred years you'd have only made 1/10th of a billion dollars. Despite the fact that its still more money than either of us will probably ever see.

The people who operate google have billions with an s at the end. Think about the hardest working person you've known. Think about how little money they made.

Now ask yourself, what did the people with billions do to earn that money? How hard did they have to work to justify it, and how is that level of work even humanly possible? How would a bunch of spoiled overgrown trustfund fratboys find it in themselves do that work?

They fucking don't. The only people who get that rich do it by cheating, and stealing, and fucking people over. Those fuckers owe us a lot more than video streaming services.

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago
[–] BalooWasWahoo@links.hackliberty.org 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Your math is off. You said one million per day, but your 1/10 of a billion would have it as one million per year

[–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Oof that's a typo, yeah meant years. Sorry bud.

[–] cheddar@programming.dev 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Free or not, monopolies should be regulated.

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] wanderingmagus@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

Yes, and ads should be regulated regardless of whether the service is free or not. Same way you can't put outright porn on a highway billboard.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

They’re a monopoly that relies on users to produce content. You see, in a functional capitalist system, when one supplier deliberately hinders competition through unfair trade practices, they are made to change their methods in order to foster competition.

When that system is corrupted and fails to act in a timely manner, all bets are off.

You know where else you can go to find the billions of videos users have uploaded? No. How did it get that way? Just, luck? No.

Yes, we want regulations on ads in YouTube, and it’s an ignorant and arrogant position to call that “entitled”.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

You’ll never get upvotes for telling people this reality, but you are of course completely correct.

If only we saw as much enthusiasm for voting generally as we see for taking ads off YT. Maybe we’d actually get a government that was willing to regulate titans.