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[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Hi, I’m a programmer. Most of my classmates didn’t know how to use Linux.

Now, I’ve realized that newer products are being developed via Visual Studio so……

Linux and command line knowledge aren’t the same as being tech savvy

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Um is there anything special to use Linux? Click the GUI.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s a different paradigm for windows users. “Why won’t this exe/msi install on my computer?”

But also, once you realize the unlimited potential to customize it’s pretty special. I, for one, hate using anything without a tiling windows manager.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So how do you install things?

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Red hat based? Install the RPM. Debian based? Install the deb, generally? Install from the repository. You can also install from source if you’d like

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I don't know what any of that means.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Install app from native app repository of chosen Linux distribution.

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 months ago

Well yeah this is like asking an oboe player how they control pitch, and they respond "different embouchure is the universal way to do it, but adjusting the reed is the best way"

Go look it up if you don't know what the terms mean

[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You don't generally download the file like you would an exe or MSI on windows. Rather you enter a command line that tells Linux to connect to the repository (like an app store) of that particular type of Linux, pull the latest installation file and install it.

You can still download the file and install it directly, but it's not a straightforward double click like on windows.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There are GUI wrappers that issue the equivalent commands for you, but a lot of Linux users would just write something like this on the command line:

sudo apt install vlc

That's how you would install VLC (media player) on Debian linux without any prior file download or browsing. It connects to the Debian repository for you, downloads and installs.

[–] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Well installing it. That alone requires a challenge most folks probably couldn't overcome easily. People are accustomed to just getting a computer with a working os on it. Changing that os would be pretty hard for them.

[–] doctortran@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And let's be real, you at least need a degree of tech savvy to deal with the inevitable issues that will come up. Even on the simplest distro.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 0 points 2 months ago

IDK, only times when I broke things on Debian were when I made the unwise decisions to do things I don't fully understand (that doesn't really happen now). And my elderly mom uses Mint with less problems than she did Windows.

[–] yoshisaur@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

linux can be used through mostly GUI now so i partly agree with you, but installing linux can be quite a hard task for those who aren’t tech savvy. i’m pretty sure being able to do the following can be considered tech savvy:

  1. change boot settings
  2. flash an ISO to a USB drive
  3. shrink windows partition into a new one for linux
  4. boot from USB
  5. actually install linux
  6. get used to linux
[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can you not order Ubuntu on a DVD anymore? Also you’re explaining dual boot. You can just single boot linux

[–] yoshisaur@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i’m not sure. most people at my school use a laptop at their main computer, so they couldn’t use an ubuntu DVD anyways. i personally prefer dual boot over single boot

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

… did everyone remove the media drive off laptops? There are also external media drives.

[–] pmc@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago

New laptops don't have optical drives. I don't think there's a single manufacturer that still has them.

Hell, most new computer cases (much to my chagrin) don't even have 5 1/4" bays.

[–] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago

I think it has been probably more than 5 years since I have seen an optical drive on a new laptop.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago

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