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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 112 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

It's interesting that they are choosing this, of all things, to double down on. They're not just contesting what happened at the event, but doing it in a confrontational fashion that guarantees it will remain a story long after the rest of us move on. It would be one thing to simply say "We had a discussion over this, We're right, they're wrong". But they keep pushing it.

How many NPR fans are on Twitter these days, anyway? If Twitter had not chosen to step in and falsely label this story, it might have gotten 10 click-throughs and that's it. But now, it's an actual story, it remains in the news, and I'm not sure if that's positive for the Trump campaign.

I know, it's just what they do. It's the crowd size thing, the Sharpie thing, the "alternative facts" all over again. My hope is that every time they push their false reality too far, a handful of voters realize what is happening, and it prevents them from gaining more power.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 40 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How many NPR fans are on Twitter these days, anyway? If Twitter had not chosen to step in and falsely label this story, it might have gotten 10 click-throughs and that’s it. But now, it’s an actual story, it remains in the news, and I’m not sure if that’s positive for the Trump campaign.

This is an interesting thought. Is Twitter now useful exclusively as a Streisand-Effect machine?

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

Trump's tantrums shall be sequestered to his own platform no longer! they shall be amplified on Xitter once again!

[–] Hackerman_uwu@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There’s a human centipede that goes from Putin to Trump to Musk. That’s why they are doing it.

[–] solidgrue@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

That's enough Internet for me today, I think.

[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago

Oh, he's for sure testing the waters on this relatively small event. Throw the spam tag on and see what happens. If not much happens, I guarantee you will be seeing it more on factual reported events.

If there is a big uproar? Oops, our algorithm was malfunctioning.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Because this looks really fucking bad. Like even by Trump standards. They know that their best hope is turning this into another heated alternative facts culture war issue.

They do this not because they think it will actually change minds, but because it makes talking about "the most recent crazy thing Trump did" a "political statement" which means people can't bring it up at work or around certain family, etc. If they turn it into a political third rail it prevents people from talking about it.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

guarantees it will remain a story long after the rest of us move on.

A story where? On twitter where it is marked as unsafe and full of lies?

This is not the streisand effect. This is demonstrating the power of literally controlling the media to a degree that even rupert murdock gets envious of. Because if your news channel is spewing garbage? Other news channels and "grass roots" efforts will correct it. But if the platform they use to correct it is the thing that is compromised?

Shit like this? The trump story (that was never going to get traction) is irrelevant. What is relevant is musk and his handlers advertising what twitter can do and how long twitter is willing to "hold out" to regulation attempts.

It is the same logic behind apple making it clear they will resist information requests until there is a court order or Proton outright telling its users what it will and won't give law enforcement and governments. Except this is marketing toward those governments, not the users.

[–] mdd@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This story is being reported elsewhere. It had been in the news cycle for several days as more individuals and govt agencies commented.

AP from Wednesday - https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-vance-arlington-cemetery-1.7307539

EDIT - The story continues: Reuters from Thursday - https://lemm.ee/post/41014140

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago

How many NPR fans are on Twitter these days, anyway?

I'd say, probably a whole fucking lot? Normal people listen to NPR, and (unfortunately), "normal" people still use Twitter. There is definitely a massive overlap still.