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Questions about the safety of Tesla's 'Full Self-Driving' system are growing (apnews.com)

submitted 2 months ago by vegeta@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not safe

[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Humans are not safe. 40k of them get killed in vehicle accidents every year in the US alone. Self driving doesn't need to be flawless. It only needs to be safer. If perfection is the only thing we'll settle for then that'll cost us hundreds of thousands, if not millions of more lives untill we get there.

If we replaced every vehicle on US roads with self driving cars that were twice as safe of an driver as average human is, there would still be 50 deaths every single day. That's 50 daily news articles on Lemmy about how "not safe" self driving cars are despite them saving additional 20k lives every year.

[–] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There is no independently verified data that shows Tesla self driving is actually better than humans.

[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I never claimed it is.

[–] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes you did: https://lemmy.ml/post/19661763/13303063

You should stop lying.

[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

That was posted after replying to you and I'm making an entirely different claim there. Half as good as a human driver =/= twice as good as human. It's also just my opinion, not a factual statement, only what I believe to be true.

Not a single lie was told.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Let us know when it even gets to half as good as a human.

[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

About a year ago probably. Humans suck at driving so that's a low bar to reach.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Citation desired.

[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's not a fact, but my opinion which I cannot prove any more than you can disprove.