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Popular iPad design app Procreate is coming out against generative AI, and has vowed never to introduce generative AI features into its products. The company said on its website that although machine learning is a “compelling technology with a lot of merit,” the current path that generative AI is on is wrong for its platform. 

Procreate goes on to say that it’s not chasing a technology that is a threat to human creativity, even though this may make the company “seem at risk of being left behind.”

Procreate CEO James Cuda released an even stronger statement against the technology in a video posted to X on Monday.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Why do you think it ingests all its content from. Problem isn't the AI itself it's the companies that operated but it's not inaccurate to conflate the two things.

I think you'll be in a little disingenuous.

[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I like how you completely dodge his argument with this. If training data isn't considered transformative, then it's copyright infringement, like piracy.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes I agree it's copyright violation I think maybe you're not reading my comment correctly? I'm responding to the guy saying that it isn't copyright violation.

What are you talking about? Did you understand the original comment?

[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Your initial claim was that MLMs "steal" content to train on, which is plainly false. If MLM training data is theft, then piracy is theft. All this hate should be directed at the legal system that punishes individuals for piracy while enabling corporations to do the same.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago

You need to take some pills or something because you're swinging from two positions at the same time. You have a go at me because you think I'm saying copyright violation is acceptable and now you're having to go at me because I corrected you and said I think it's unacceptable.

Please decide what you actually think before commenting

[–] ReCursing@lemmings.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're being disingenuous by trying to redefine the concept of theft. It does not steal anything by any definition of the word. It learn using a neural network similar to, but much simpler than, the one in your head

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Thefts is defined as in law. If something is stolen I.e it is not compensated for, then it is theft. You can't get around it by going "oh well technically it's transformative by a non-human intelligence" that doesn't work. The law not recognize AI systems as being intelligent entities, so they are therefore not capable of transformative work.

This isn't a matter of personal opinion it's just what the law is. You can't argue about it.

[–] ReCursing@lemmings.world 0 points 3 months ago

I'm impressed you've managed to go from "wrong" to "not even wrong" - that is so far from correct that you can't even conceive of the right answer. Stop being a luddite