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This thread is a mess.
users: "bot is awful"
mod: "ok so it's not terrible so that's good"
Yeah lol, i cant help but laugh every time i see the mods replies in this thread. i dont understand shit about his train of thought, i dont know if he is denyal or was surprised most people didnt end up aligning with his bias and is in damage control replying nonsense.
The thing I don't get is why are they so insistent on this change that is so overwhelmingly not wanted?
Who is pushing this and why are so many mods backing it?
$$$$
I apologize if this thread was misunderstood. Perhaps I was not clear that this was meant for improvements, it is not a vote on removal. Should that vote ever happen, the post would be clear about that.
All of my questions were only seeking to gain more information about people’s feelings. I apologize if it came off as a promise to enact anything in particular or an endorsement of any particular stance on the bot.
The problem is with MBFC, and you have no control over them. Therefore, the only way you can improve the bot is to remove it entirely.
Remove MBFC? Yes, that’s part of the discussion and the point of this post. The struggle seems to be over the API, but I’d love to have suggestions to bring to the rest of the team. As I have said multiple times, it is not my decision to remove the bot, I’m simply here for suggestions that the rest of the team would be open to.
Whose decision is it, then?
It’s a team decision and I am the newest mod on the team. The main developer of the bot is an admin, who ultimately would be the one to implement any changes.
So it is in part your decision. I'm pretty sure the admins aren't forcing you to have it here.
During your next shift, you should do something that nobody on your team or your supervisor wants you to do. Lmk how that goes for you
I'm concerned about why the team wants to force something on the users that is objectively harmful. What is the justification?
“Objectively harmful” might be a tad overstating it?
No.
Putting aside those who have stated their appreciation and those who have e DM’d as well….
How it is harmful?
It imparts bias despite trying to clarify it.
It spams threads.
It baits users to disagree with it and earn deletes/mutes from overzealous mods, thus polluting people's modlogs
Yes, you've been very clear from the start that you do not want to remove the bot. However, the feedback you've consistently received is that it provides no benefit, is misleading, reductive, and the best improvement you could make would be to remove it. You don't seem willing or able to respond to that.
Correct, I am unable to supersede admin decisions as a mod. I am here collecting feedback on improvements. Again, I am looking for feedback on improvements, as the decision to remove the bot is not in my control.
Then you're just wasting both your time and ours.
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Ok. Sorry you’ve never been on a functional team before.
It clearly seems as though you aren't either.
https://lemmy.world/post/19173515?scrollToComments=true
I feel as though the admin team and mods have never truly developed a product for market as they seem incredibly desperate to cling to whatever this bot is to become.
In any case, that thread just points to further team discombobulation and a poor handling of user wants and desires.
We're not developing anything for market and had no role in creating or implementing the bot. Also we have full time jobs, are volunteering our time, and had to convene to review the pros and cons. If you think you can run things more smoothly, you are welcome to join the team and contribute time and energy to the effort. Don't expect users to show any gratitude though.