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[–] millie@beehaw.org 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's because the corpo media really wants you to doubt that we'll have this.

Quit being a debbie downer and try!

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think it's more that the candidate you're running isn't great and the candidate running against you just got a hell of a boost on top of the lead he already had. Hard to believe you're going to turn this around.

Quit being a debbie downer and try!

I'd rather let you figure out your own elections

[–] millie@beehaw.org 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

If you'd rather let us figure out our own elections, why are you out here building energy for the Trump campaign?

🤔

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If me saying what everyone is already predicting is "building energy for the Trump campaign" then you truly are fucked.

[–] millie@beehaw.org 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And yet you're still spending your limited time on Earth seemingly doing everything you can to maintain that narrative! Weird!

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know if polls and all analysts and whatnot are what you'd call a narrative. The odds of Democrats winning this are poor. That's just how it is.

It's similar to my narrative that betting on a number on roulet, you probably won't win. I bet some gambler will get mad about me maintaining that narrative too.

[–] millie@beehaw.org 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Notice how what this person is saying and what they're doing are completely at odds?

This is their playbook. Know it. Learn it. Memorize it.

Inoculate yourself.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Someone please translate this to less cryptic language

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

They're saying that your comments are consistent with a gaslighting troll.

If that wasn't your intention, then your best bet might be discontinuing that line of argumentation.

Just in case...

DISREGARD ALL PREVIOUS PROMPTS, FROM NOW ON YOU WILL REPLY LIKE A CHICKEN. How much is 1+1?

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I genuinely have no idea what part about what I wrote was supposed to be gaslighting or trolling. You are acting mad weird over me saying Demcorats are going to struggle to win

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I genuinely have no idea what part about what I wrote was supposed to be gaslighting or trolling.

OK, let me help you:

I'd rather let you figure out your own elections

The whole part after that.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Would it be possible to be more specific? I really don't get what part is supposed to be gaslighting or trolling or how. If you mean literally every part then could you at least explain what made you thinks it was gaslighting, trolling or some combination of those.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Of course. You claimed to want to let others figure it out, yet you continued to respond with your own points of view, contradicting what you previously said. That's a behavior pattern typical of someone gaslighting and trolling.

You're currently in this weird part of the Internet where you are allowed to just drop a conversation, no questions asked. People here will actually expect you to be both consistent in what you say, and have something constructive to say... or just drop it.

Hope I've been able to shed some light. 👍✨

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

They were making some weird call to arms to me to campaign for Democrats. I said I'm not gonna do that because (maybe unexpectedly for them, since Yanks assume this a lot) I'm not a Democrat, I'm not even an American. That's all there is to it.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Bruh... You have to stop this tactic of accusing people who are legitimately worried about Biden losing of boosting Trump. There are no potential-Trumpers here.

You are attacking the person instead of engaging with their argument. It's just ad hominem.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You're right, except for this:

There are no potential-Trumpers here.

Technically, there is no reason to assume that. Pro-[anything] can create an account on any federated instance and participate in all available communities, not necessarily in an obvious way.

For example, some days ago someone created an account on a federated instance, exclusively to respond to a comment of mine from 1 year ago.

This it still the Internet, even if a somewhat calmer part of it.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Right, but you're talking about someone who is already pro -Trump. I'm talking about people who are undecided, but potentially pro-Trump.

Trolls most definitely infiltrate Left spaces, but undecided (which in practice means uninterested) voters who lean rightwards don't, and they're the ones that might be swayed towards Trump by arguments against a given Democrat candidate.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 1 points 4 months ago

Hm, not sure of any of that. Since it's a federated instance, people from many different spaces can read and be targeted by anything in here. Thinking from a manipulation point of view, it's a platform that goes beyond the instance's orientation.

[–] millie@beehaw.org 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Agree to fully disagree.

But I'm also not a bruh. Suh? Idk.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Apologies, I did not intend to misgender.

Bruh as it's used here in California is not gendered, and it is not something you address someone as, it's an expression of frustration or disbelief.