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[–] c0smokram3r@midwest.social 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

WTH, Mozilla 🤦🏼‍♀️

Also, fuck you, dude:

One Mozilla developer claimed that explaining PPA would be too challenging, so they had to opt users in by default.

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think explaining a system like PPA would be a difficult task.

IMO that just means they barely understand it themselves. Anyone that understands something with an amount of proficiency can explain it to child and it'll make sense, given they don't use technical nomenclature.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

The difficulty is in spinning it to sound non invasive. And of course takes a level of self corruption to even want to do that, since PPA is invasive and you have to delude yourself into thinking otherwise.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"You're too dumb to understand so we make decisions for you"

Fuck that condescending prick with a pineapple.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Chill; he’s probably not talking about you. He is talking about “your mom”. If you want her to use Firefox, it’s got to be simple.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.de 0 points 4 months ago

Opt-in IS simple. Mom just won't opt in.

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

But this PPA stuff doesn't need to be enabled by default. They are opting-in all Firefox users to something they don't understand.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

i read that as more like "nobody would opt in if it was opt-in".

[–] kbal@fedia.io 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

One Mozilla developer claimed that explaining PPA would be too challenging

It's not that difficult to explain. "When you visit the website of a participating advertiser whose ads you've seen, do you want us to tell them that someone saw their ads and visited their site, without telling them it was you? Y/N"

But if they asked such a question almost all of the small fraction of users who bother to read the whole sentence would still see no good reason to want to participate. Coming up with one is that hard part. It requires some pretty fancy rationalizations. Firefox keeping track of which ads I've seen? No, thanks.

If there was an option to make sure that advertisers whose ads I've blocked know that they got blocked, I might go for that.

The writer apparently thinks that the previous Mozilla misstep into advertising land was the Mr. Robot thing six years ago, which seems to confirm my impression that this one is getting a bigger reaction than their other recent moves in this direction. We'll see if the rest of the tech press picks it up. Maybe one day when the cumulative loss of users shows up more clearly in the telemetry they'll reconsider.

[–] Paradox@lemdro.id 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Let's not forget when they shipped a full page ad for a Disney movie into a browser update

[–] fuggadihere@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Lol what? I gotta find this

[–] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

If you can't explain a difficult concept in a simple way, then you don't truly understand it.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] towerful@programming.dev 0 points 4 months ago

How long is it?

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Bah, that’s such a lame hot take.

Tonnes of things are really complicated to explain because they’re complicated.

[–] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 0 points 4 months ago

I know. But it’s wrong.