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Linux is great, and does a lot of stuff right... however....
I just don't get the people around there sometimes. They're okay with spending 1000+ hours jumping between 30 different Linux distros and customizing their DE, dealing with Wine / virtualization crap. BUT they aren't able to Windows 10 Enterprise and read the manual to get a clean usable system in 1/1000 of the time and effort.
How ironic.
People who spend that much time configuring linux are doing it for fun. Majority of people switching to linux have a working install setup in less time than it takes to install windows
And that's okay, however those same people are the ones saying Windows is unusable because it would take a very long time to disable analytics. This is the thing, people aren't consistent.
How is that not consistent though? If someone's argument is windows is usable because it takes to long to disable analytics the argument isn't invalidated by them configuring Linux for 1000 hours. Linux comes out of the box with no analytics so they would only be inconsistent if they spent that 1000 hours trying to disable Linux analytics. I enjoy configuring Linux but I do not enjoy configuring my system to be malware free.
Never seen that guide. Does it actually work?
I tried using firewall and registry, it kinda worked but system was acting wild at times and eventually would implode. Could be a me issue but i was spending too much time on it.
Once i switched to linux and set it up, there is less maintenance
This guide just helped me realize why I don't use windows. The fact that you need to remove and not add is why I like Linux.
I think i've heard about this... does it mean in normie terms: MS gets unrestricted internet lane to your windows?
No. It means if you upgrade a system from 21h2 to 22h2 Microsoft may have added new stuff in there that you've to review because if you connect it the internet right away those new "features" may connect to them.
Consider this example: Windows 11 before and after the Copilot shit. You can completely disable Copilot and other AI features using group policy however if you're on the "before" version you can't disable the feature because it isn't there already, if you upgrade, the features would be there with defaults and on the first boot it might great you with a "welcome to copilot" that will connect to Microsoft.
Yes, best results with Enterprise.
It won't implode, and it becomes a zero maintenance OS.
Windows out of the box is full of crap but we all know that a lot of large companies use it and Microsoft is kinda forced into making it feasible enough for those companies. If you're managing let's say 500+ machines you can't deal with the bullshit that comes with Windows 10 Home / Pro and systems that break every week.
There are also a lot of govt agencies and private companies with very strict security policies that can't just allow Windows to connect to MS and leak information around. If you simply disable what you don't need by following that manual things will really work out.
On the corporate world those changes are typically applied using AD, however, if you apply them manually in group policy they'll stick and you won't be bothered. Don't forget to check the link every time there's a major version because they usually add stuff.
I installed Windows 10 Enterprise 1709 on my main desktop in 2018 and applied the stuff documented there... I've been upgrading since then and it's currently running 22H2 just fine. No policy regressions like some people claim.
Microsoft is forced to provide ways for big customers to make Windows usable and those aren't going away anytime soon, they've a financial incentive to do so.
I see. But I did look around for Enterprise but I could not figure where to get it as a normie.
I am assuming that is on purpose?
Most likely, "normie" don't even know Enterprise exist...
With that said, you may find links here:
https://massgrave.dev/windows_10_links
Business ISO includes both Pro and Enterprise versions. On the same website you can find activation tools including HWID that will give you a valid digital license for your hardware that will survive a reinstallation of windows.
Just as a note if you've any Windows 10 Pro machines around you can upgrade them to Enterprise by just changing the key to a generic one under settings. A clean install of Enterprise would be better but you can still do it that way if you don't want the trouble / spend more time with it.