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[–] profdc9@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

So I have a LLM read a book and paraphrase its contents, that's not stealing?

[–] kureta@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago

copyright laws are broken. what seems ethical can be illegal and what seems unethical can be legal.

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

!Arthur Dent has his home demolished while humans simultaneously have Earth demolished by an alien race called Vogons, but him and Ford Prefect escape by hitchhiking onto the Vogon ship. They're discovered and thrown into space, but miraculously saved by Ford's relative (can't remember how they're related) and his ship The Heart of Gold, which is powerful but unpredictable. They wind up on a mythical planet due to that unpredictability, and learn that Earth was a designer planet created to calculate ~~the ultimate answer to the~~ ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything. (The famous "42" thing). The whole crew escapes the planet and decides to go to The Restaurant at the End of The Universe to eat and watch the universe end.!<

Have I just stolen The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy and given it to you?

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 0 points 4 months ago

You've probably not infringed the copyright, only the court can decide though; if you were to be challenged by the rights holder.

I think there are lots of factors in your defence:

  • you're not selling it , your use is an example for education
  • I don't think you're reducing the market value for the original(s) in any way
  • you've not included substantial verbaitim sections of the original works , but I think you have used more than just facts and ideas (not sure though).

But add in some more quotes, flesh it out, and then try to sell it . . . each step weakens the 'fair use' defence.

This the the problem for the LLM, it can be used for many things, and if it has no filter or limit, then eventually the collective derived works might add up to commercial, substantial reuse, and might include enough to have copied a substantial portion of the original. Very hard to determine I'd think. Each individual use might be fair, but did the LLM itself go too far at some point?

Copyright holder probably struggles to challenge the LLM on the basis of all the things infinite mokeys might use it for in future.

[–] ayaya@lemdro.id 0 points 4 months ago

Again, even an exact copy is not stealing. It's copyright infringement. Theft is a different crime.

But paraphrasing is not copyright infringement either. It's no different than Wikipedia having a synopsis for every single episode of a TV series. Telling someone about what a work contains for informational purposes is perfectly fine.