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[–] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Yes. Android already does all these things. But I think the things I’m excited most about are not on this list at all.

  1. A private local LLM. With the on-device context of my notes, messages, calendar, etc, I’m rather excited to have a more personal LLM than ChatGPT.

  2. Personal messaging via satellite. I love that I can stay in touch with people outside of a cell network.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

also excited for hands free unlock of smart door locks. not sure if android/google home does that.

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

I'd add to that list. If Siri is 3/4 as capable as shown in the presentation, that's sick. Android does not have that.

[–] AceSLS@ani.social 0 points 5 months ago (4 children)

A private local LLM

Running on a phone? No way, not without being absolutely horrible, slow or making your phone churn through your battery anyway.

Good LLMs are olready slow on a GTX 1080, which is already miles faster than any phone out there

[–] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think It’s running on their “Private cloud compute” platform, not locally (I’m not sure though)

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

some things are run locally.

[–] subtext@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I hear you, but also I would be shocked if Apple were to roll this out and it be an absolutely terrible experience. Like their MO is “luxury” products with “premium” experiences, it would not be fitting of the brand to have a piece of crap experience on their flagship announcement.

I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on this one.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

You might wanna check with siri on that. Apple regularly failed at that even under the leadership of Jobs. And Tim Cook is no Steve Jobs. It's already looking like it's going to be just standard remote chat GPT. Hallucinations and all.

[–] nullPointer@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

apple maps has entered the chat.

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 0 points 5 months ago

But apple maps is much better now lederp.jpeg.

[–] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago

Apple Maps was bad, yes. But they had their hand forced. Google started charging for their API (enough to cripple their app), and they had very little time to create one of their own.

That’s not happening here. No one is forcing their hand. If they didn’t release an updated Siri this year, nothing would happen.

[–] habanhero@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's not a LLM, it's a much smaller model (~3B) which is closer to what Microsoft labels as a SLM (Small Language Models, e.g. MS Phi-3 Mini).

https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/introducing-apple-foundation-models

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft's penchant for making up names for thing that already have names is neither here nore there. It is an LLM, in fact its already twice as large as chatGTP2 (1.5B params).

[–] habanhero@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago

I do think it's a useful distinction considering open models can be more than 100B+ nowdays and GPT4 is rumored to be 1.7T params. Plus this class of models are far more likely to be on-device.

[–] kill_dash_nine@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

You would be surprised. If you haven’t tried to run a LLM on Apple silicon, it’s pretty snappy but like all others, RAM can be a significantly limiting factor unless the model is trimmed down to do very specific things to reduce the size.

[–] doleo@lemmy.one 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Did I understand correctly that this is only going to be in the iPhone 15 pro? Because that’s a lot more expensive than a pixel, more than I’d ever spend on a phone tbh.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The satellite im fairly sure is only pro

[–] ByteMe@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We went hiking and tried calling emergency services but my friend's 14 pro couldn't get any signal for some reason. Idk what was wrong, me and my friend with pixels had no issues though.

[–] ByteMe@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This was in the LA mountains. Angeles national park

[–] ByteMe@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

I don't know. Pixels don't support call vis satellite though

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

A private local LLM. With the on-device context of my notes, messages, calendar, etc, I’m rather excited to have a more personal LLM than ChatGPT.

No need to wait for iOS 18 to have that: https://llmfarm.site/

[–] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago

That’s great, but the fact it’s local and private means it can consume my personal data and be a more personal LLM. This just doesn’t hit that mark.