this post was submitted on 16 May 2024
453 points (97.9% liked)

World News

32352 readers
967 users here now

News from around the world!

Rules:

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] kofe@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Asking as an atheist myself: what is "nothing"?

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Remember the 13 billion years before you were born? More of that.

[–] kofe@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Yes, I remember parts of it because I enjoy learning about history. But I'm remembering something, which is not nothing.

[–] geography082@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Imagine a mind, a person, a body… then imagine it is not there anymore.

[–] kofe@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

But that requires me to imagine something, which is not nothing

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Beige. Forever.

[–] Trae@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What do you remember about before you were born?

[–] kofe@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Lots, see another reply I've made

[–] Trae@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's a pedantic way to answer a question that you understand the purpose of, but are choosing to answer it hyper literally. So, I'll respond hyper literally. You don't remember anything about before you were born because you weren't there to experience it. You're recalling scientific theories and stories passed down through the years about historic events that took place before your birth.

The question again since you want to be hyper literal is "what do you remember about 'your life' before you were born?". It's a thought experimemt to make you think about the totality and finite of nothingness.

[–] kofe@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I get what you meant by the question but I'm trying to demonstrate that it is impossible for us to conceptualize what nothingness is without something. It's a philosophical issue that science can't answer. You're welcome to whatever beliefs and answers to the question you like, but without a way to falsify it, that's all it is. A belief* (edited correction to autocorrect). Not scientific truth.

Further edit: just to be sure I'm clear, you've asked me to imagine what life was like before I was born, thereby pointing to my birth, which is something. My life is something. I don't know what life would be like without