You are casually ceding the "not wanting people to kill themselves" ground to the right while also allowing them to paint themselves as caring about human lives when in reality they just want to control women's bodies and protect fetuses, not people.

"Every life is valuable" is obviously a left-wing stance because the left are the ones who actually care about people's lives, even when they're disabled, downtrodden, and painted as burdens on society.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Oh right wing def feel every life has value.

Just less value then everybodies right not to be forced to pay for them.

They are fairly open about the value of a states non right to force an indevidual to fund anothers life. Being more important then anything.

That the value for all lives is based on either an indeviduals ability to self support. Or other indeviduals willingness to offer charity.

It is forced charity usinging the states ability to use violence they consider a greater crime then any % of society not wanting to support the lives of those in need.

Its not value or no value. But priority of those values that differs.

IE states using its same power of violence to kill forign people who might disagree with the state. Can be argued with no worry about the value of those actions. They have no issue with not choosing to fund defence or the actual state ability to use violence to enforce its laws.

Just the state taking money via potential force to provide life to US citizens in need.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. If we're talking about vibes, seeking to normalize suicide for people with disabilities gives me the same vibes as far-right eugenics stuff.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Ill say one thing. As some one with disabilities. While i have no desire myself. Heck my life will be short anyway.

I do feel it is a right people should have.

It just really requires a sound mind at the time of choice. And huge effort to ensure it is not a choice the paiteint is neing forced or guilted into making.

As I cant really come up with an effective and garenteed way to enforce those restrictions.

Im currently happy my natiin will not allow anyform of assisted suicide. It must be entirly at partients own control. And technocally even then its a crime. But one that xamt be punished. Where as an assistant will be jailed.

But I can hope/wish for a world where people could choose to have suffering ended without so much risk of others pushing them into it for thier ow. Reasons.

As I say its not a choice I would make. But my own health means it could be one I mY want amd need help to make in the future.