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Curious from people who follow its development closely.

  • What protocol are about to be finally implemented?
  • Which ones are still a struggle?
  • How many serious protocols are there missing?

https://arewewaylandyet.com/

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[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Most comments have been positive, so I'm gonna list all my issues. Using endeavours with KDE 6.2 and the AUR explicit sync patch, 5800 ryzen CPU and 3080 NVIDIA GPU.

The discord xwayland app can't share screen, and the waycord app that fake chromiums the web interface that let's you share screen has the sound bug out sometimes with large sound spikes. So if I want to share the screen I have to open the second app and then close it fast to minimize the chances I annoy my friends.

Window positioning. It almost seems a flagship Wayland issue. I would love if apps remembered on which screen and position I left them the next time I open them, telegram opens in the middle of the primary monitor, and I have to drag it to the right of the secondary one every time I switch on the PC.

Shutting down in any way that is not opening the console and typing reboot or "shutdown now" takes way way longer and sometimes bugs out. This might not be a Wayland issue, but a KDE one.

The tdrop program that let's you interact with any terminal as if it were a dropdown terminal doesn't work in Wayland, and it just isn't the same to open a terminal in the normal way, is lame. Foot is a good terminal for sure but I want the dropdown effect.

I can't think of anything else right now, most explicit sync issues I had were fixed with the AUR patch, so of anyone has those issues wait until the real patch comes around and they will get fixed. It was quite annoying without the patch though, some programs glitched visually hard and several games were unplayable due to the heavy ghosting (dark souls 2 and dragon's dogma 2, for example). I'll add to this comment if I remember anything else. Even if the issue was recently fixed it's good to have a list of stuff so that people can check it out and confirm that it's fixed, for posteriority.

[–] azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You mean Plasma 6.0.2, not 6.2 - that will be released in a year.

Use X11 to Wayland Video bridge to get screen sharing working with any X11 app that can’t talk to desktop-portal/PipeWire (such as Discord)

What’s worth noting is that applications, as of now can’t affect window positioning in any way. It’s all about how compositor (kwin_wayland in this case) is placing them. Personally I don’t care that much because I’ve got shortcuts to quickly move windows between screens or desktops. You might consider looking at window rules - they’re pretty neat on KDE.

Shutting down? What???

On the tdrop thing, I wouldn’t expect it to be possible in near future, but how about Yakuake?

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah, 6.0.2, the version available in the arch repos.

I'll check the video bridge, thanks! -- Update on this, apparently I was already using it since it ships by default with KDE, it seems to be a discord bug. Weirdly enough, going back to an older flatpak version (0.0.42) fixed the issue. I'll have to check the updates to see if they fix it.

Thanks on the window rules mention too. -- Update on this, you are a saint. I added a rule for the telegram window in KDE so that it remembers its position, and it simply works. https://imgur.com/a/zrvbRPI

Yeah, idk, when I try to use the GUI it takes way longer than the CLI command somehow, and sometimes it blocks itself. It must be something related to some programming hanging itself and the system trying to wait until it stops, but I can't be bothered, it's way faster to open a terminal and just typing the command or opening KDE connect and pressing the "shutdown now" shortcut. Not a Wayland issue though.

I did use yakuake in the past but call it stupid brain, but once I read that alacritty was faster and I customized it to my liking, and then checking that foot was a little bit faster, I can't go back. It's stupid, I know that most of the use I give the terminal is actually spent on the commands themselves and that I can give transparency and remove window borders in yakuake, I'm just pissy that my fancy combo stopped working.

[–] cobra89@beehaw.org 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The tdrop program that let's you interact with any terminal as if it were a dropdown terminal doesn't work in Wayland, and it just isn't the same to open a terminal in the normal way, is lame. Foot is a good terminal for sure but I want the dropdown effect.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Yakuake

It's its own terminal but I find it to be pretty good and it works with Wayland.

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

I did use Yakuake in the past, I might give it a try again maybe, it's just not my dear foot terminal compiles from scratch, you know?