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[–] carl_marks_1312@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

When Ukraine gets it's military equipment, intelligence, diplomatic and economic support to carry on the war I wouldn't call it independent either. It's a US/NATO Proxy

[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No country with allies is independent anymore, 99.9% of the world in shambles.

[–] carl_marks_1312@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago

Of course that depends on your definition on "independence". I would call the US and China independent in their foreign policy. Not Ukraine though